Roush M90 time !!!!
09-26-2012, 05:06 PM
#12
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Yes I have the smaller pulley. VMP500 kit from vmptuning.com
As far as what dude said, M90 is and isn't a waste of money. The M90 puts out a hell of a lot more power than a N/A engine, is relatively cheap (in terms of blowers) and does not require much else to be added, thus saving even more money. You can also find them used on Ebay from people who upgraded to the TVS for around 2k as well. All in all, for a person on a budget/stretching to make it... the M90 is one hell of a nice purchase.
On the other hand, if you have plenty of cash and plan on going all out in other areas trying to get into the 600-1000hp range, then the M90 is a waste of money because you are just going to be selling it in a year anyway and buying a TVS (I speak only Roush blowers, there are obviously others).
For most people, the M90 is fine. Once you start creeping to the 500rwhp area which is about all a M90 can handle, then you are going to have to spend 20k to break that barrier and almost no one can afford it. I learned that by asking. New blower, forged engine, new tranny, fuel pumps, cooling, fuel injectors, on and on and on
As far as what dude said, M90 is and isn't a waste of money. The M90 puts out a hell of a lot more power than a N/A engine, is relatively cheap (in terms of blowers) and does not require much else to be added, thus saving even more money. You can also find them used on Ebay from people who upgraded to the TVS for around 2k as well. All in all, for a person on a budget/stretching to make it... the M90 is one hell of a nice purchase.
On the other hand, if you have plenty of cash and plan on going all out in other areas trying to get into the 600-1000hp range, then the M90 is a waste of money because you are just going to be selling it in a year anyway and buying a TVS (I speak only Roush blowers, there are obviously others).
For most people, the M90 is fine. Once you start creeping to the 500rwhp area which is about all a M90 can handle, then you are going to have to spend 20k to break that barrier and almost no one can afford it. I learned that by asking. New blower, forged engine, new tranny, fuel pumps, cooling, fuel injectors, on and on and on
09-26-2012, 05:07 PM
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Oh, btw mighted..... bap is a Boost a Pump. Kenne Bell makes it. it's an alternative to the GT500 dual fuel pumps for those of us tweeners who need more fuel but don't need as much as the GT500 ones can dish out.
09-26-2012, 05:20 PM
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Yes I have the smaller pulley. VMP500 kit from vmptuning.com
As far as what dude said, M90 is and isn't a waste of money. The M90 puts out a hell of a lot more power than a N/A engine, is relatively cheap (in terms of blowers) and does not require much else to be added, thus saving even more money. You can also find them used on Ebay from people who upgraded to the TVS for around 2k as well. All in all, for a person on a budget/stretching to make it... the M90 is one hell of a nice purchase.
On the other hand, if you have plenty of cash and plan on going all out in other areas trying to get into the 600-1000hp range, then the M90 is a waste of money because you are just going to be selling it in a year anyway and buying a TVS (I speak only Roush blowers, there are obviously others).
For most people, the M90 is fine. Once you start creeping to the 500rwhp area which is about all a M90 can handle, then you are going to have to spend 20k to break that barrier and almost no one can afford it. I learned that by asking. New blower, forged engine, new tranny, fuel pumps, cooling, fuel injectors, on and on and on
As far as what dude said, M90 is and isn't a waste of money. The M90 puts out a hell of a lot more power than a N/A engine, is relatively cheap (in terms of blowers) and does not require much else to be added, thus saving even more money. You can also find them used on Ebay from people who upgraded to the TVS for around 2k as well. All in all, for a person on a budget/stretching to make it... the M90 is one hell of a nice purchase.
On the other hand, if you have plenty of cash and plan on going all out in other areas trying to get into the 600-1000hp range, then the M90 is a waste of money because you are just going to be selling it in a year anyway and buying a TVS (I speak only Roush blowers, there are obviously others).
For most people, the M90 is fine. Once you start creeping to the 500rwhp area which is about all a M90 can handle, then you are going to have to spend 20k to break that barrier and almost no one can afford it. I learned that by asking. New blower, forged engine, new tranny, fuel pumps, cooling, fuel injectors, on and on and on
09-26-2012, 05:41 PM
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Yeah I was just taking the all out approach.
4900 for the B326 shortblock,
2k or so for the TR-6060
7k for the Dual FEAD TVS
So 14k right there and you haven't bought anything else you need or paid install. But you are right, 600rwhp isn't going to kill the stock tranny so money would be saved there and that blower is a monster.. Many far far cheaper than that.
4900 for the B326 shortblock,
2k or so for the TR-6060
7k for the Dual FEAD TVS
So 14k right there and you haven't bought anything else you need or paid install. But you are right, 600rwhp isn't going to kill the stock tranny so money would be saved there and that blower is a monster.. Many far far cheaper than that.
09-26-2012, 05:54 PM
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Yeah I was just taking the all out approach.
4900 for the B326 shortblock,
2k or so for the TR-6060
7k for the Dual FEAD TVS
So 14k right there and you haven't bought anything else you need or paid install. But you are right, 600rwhp isn't going to kill the stock tranny so money would be saved there and that blower is a monster.. Many far far cheaper than that.
4900 for the B326 shortblock,
2k or so for the TR-6060
7k for the Dual FEAD TVS
So 14k right there and you haven't bought anything else you need or paid install. But you are right, 600rwhp isn't going to kill the stock tranny so money would be saved there and that blower is a monster.. Many far far cheaper than that.
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09-26-2012, 08:55 PM
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what are you running right now Rex? your sig only talk about exaust change:P
thanks xkape, man I cant wait, im checking every hour my tracking number to see update from vmp shipping, they shipped friday last week, ordered the 90mm tensionner pulley n the 2.49 pulely, hopefully I can wake the car a bit more before my last day to the track this week end
that what I though for the Bap, but does that really change anything for someone at the range of 400 whp? I have the shelby pump since beginning and at first they werent even connected correctly running me a damn CEL that took me forever to figure out what was it, now that they are working, I didnt really see any difference.. still hard to say.
thanks xkape, man I cant wait, im checking every hour my tracking number to see update from vmp shipping, they shipped friday last week, ordered the 90mm tensionner pulley n the 2.49 pulely, hopefully I can wake the car a bit more before my last day to the track this week end
that what I though for the Bap, but does that really change anything for someone at the range of 400 whp? I have the shelby pump since beginning and at first they werent even connected correctly running me a damn CEL that took me forever to figure out what was it, now that they are working, I didnt really see any difference.. still hard to say.
09-26-2012, 09:15 PM
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what are you running right now Rex? your sig only talk about exaust change:P
thanks xkape, man I cant wait, im checking every hour my tracking number to see update from vmp shipping, they shipped friday last week, ordered the 90mm tensionner pulley n the 2.49 pulely, hopefully I can wake the car a bit more before my last day to the track this week end that what I though for the Bap, but does that really change anything for someone at the range of 400 whp? I have the shelby pump since beginning and at first they werent even connected correctly running me a damn CEL that took me forever to figure out what was it, now that they are working, I didnt really see any difference.. still hard to say.
thanks xkape, man I cant wait, im checking every hour my tracking number to see update from vmp shipping, they shipped friday last week, ordered the 90mm tensionner pulley n the 2.49 pulely, hopefully I can wake the car a bit more before my last day to the track this week end
that what I though for the Bap, but does that really change anything for someone at the range of 400 whp? I have the shelby pump since beginning and at first they werent even connected correctly running me a damn CEL that took me forever to figure out what was it, now that they are working, I didnt really see any difference.. still hard to say.Currently running a KB 2.6, with DSS internals (feel stupid for not just doing the stroker kit >_<), cooling goodies, eibach pro-system kit, GT500 pumps.. Looking to get a blower cam next, DSS carbon fiber driveshaft, thought about ditching the internals and doing a stroker but probably not anymore, looking at ditching the pro-system and getting the pro-street or KW1s.. I'm happy with it power wise right now, just tackling all the other little things. I have a Cervini hood and an Mcleod RXT waiting at home plus a few other little things to slap on.
09-26-2012, 09:19 PM
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though so
im noob though when it come to engine, not sure what is the difference between stroked n forged. how much boost are you running n whp? over here at the garage their was a 4.6 forged with KB 18 psi, made 560 rwhp, mean to bought it but got told that it was sucking oil madly, like 2-3 pint for 800 kms, forgot the idea, ended buying something 10x worst rofl
im noob though when it come to engine, not sure what is the difference between stroked n forged. how much boost are you running n whp? over here at the garage their was a 4.6 forged with KB 18 psi, made 560 rwhp, mean to bought it but got told that it was sucking oil madly, like 2-3 pint for 800 kms, forgot the idea, ended buying something 10x worst rofl
09-26-2012, 09:28 PM
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though so
im noob though when it come to engine, not sure what is the difference between stroked n forged. how much boost are you running n whp? over here at the garage their was a 4.6 forged with KB 18 psi, made 560 rwhp, mean to bought it but got told that it was sucking oil madly, like 2-3 pint for 800 kms, forgot the idea, ended buying something 10x worst rofl
im noob though when it come to engine, not sure what is the difference between stroked n forged. how much boost are you running n whp? over here at the garage their was a 4.6 forged with KB 18 psi, made 560 rwhp, mean to bought it but got told that it was sucking oil madly, like 2-3 pint for 800 kms, forgot the idea, ended buying something 10x worst rofl
That car is kinda low for pushing 18 psi. It should be above 600 wheel easily unless there's something wrong with it. Sounds like it has a major problem. These are big blowers and make power easily. I would say you were better off not getting that car because it sounded way off.. There's plenty of peeps making 480-500 at 10-11 psi with KBs just depends on the tune.