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Old 11-03-2012, 06:17 PM
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I live in a state where we can't fill our own tanks, so I guess this problem would kind of take care of itself. Or rather, it wouldn't be my problem .
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Old 11-05-2012, 12:02 AM
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Got the same issue with my 07. Doesn't happen all the time but it seems to occur on warm to hot days. I find that filling it with the nozzle upside down at a moderate rate works well.
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Old 11-05-2012, 01:21 AM
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Happens on my 06 GT and my 2011 E350 Cube van......that has a 33 gallon tank.....irritates me big time when it takes 4x the amount of time to pump gas. I spend over $500 a month on fuel too.
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Old 11-05-2012, 03:16 AM
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I have the same issue, and usually filling with the pump upside down would work, but recently it hasn't.

The only technique for me that works 100%, is to turn the pump about 45 degrees to the right, and pull it up slightly while pumping at the middle or lowest setting.
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Old 11-05-2012, 10:04 PM
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Same issue here too. If it truly is due to the structural design of the tanks itself, then it really perplexes me. Wouldn't you think that Ford engineering would do computational flow simulation on the tanks? Or did they just create the fuel system, shrug their shoulders, and say to themselves "Yea, that'll probably work"? I can't imagine that it was a supplier manufacturing issue as I know from experience that if something doesn't work right out of the box and isn't built to spec, those large quantities get sent right back to the vendor to be repaired/rebuilt.

7 years of s197 production and quality and engineering still haven't found an improvement in the initial design? Hot dang.
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Old 11-05-2012, 10:21 PM
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Originally Posted by MadStang40
Same issue here too. If it truly is due to the structural design of the tanks itself, then it really perplexes me. Wouldn't you think that Ford engineering would do computational flow simulation on the tanks? Or did they just create the fuel system, shrug their shoulders, and say to themselves "Yea, that'll probably work"? I can't imagine that it was a supplier manufacturing issue as I know from experience that if something doesn't work right out of the box and isn't built to spec, those large quantities get sent right back to the vendor to be repaired/rebuilt.

7 years of s197 production and quality and engineering still haven't found an improvement in the initial design? Hot dang.
I agree it really is kind of embarrassing, but in their defense they did come out with a revised saddle design (I believe my 08 has this design with a different length inlet hose at a steeper angle) however it still has problems with fueling at some stations. =(

Ford apparently did come up with a hard fix to this, as it was partially caused by the inlet hose being a little too long, and poorly angled. I heard they re-routed the inlet hose farther into the trunk and this gave it a straighter angle straight down into the gas tank getting rid of the bad angle. Probably too costly to retrofit every S197 out there with this fix, so Ford probably ditched it.

Kind of a big mess up on Ford's part, and I'm sure someone's *** ended up on the chopping block because if it, but I guess they just swept it under the rug much like the SJB water problem.

I'll see if I can find some links, but I read this on another forum quite a while ago. My explanations are **** poor lol.

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Old 11-06-2012, 09:19 PM
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I've had my car since 05 I've been dealing with this, and I've found to try a diffrent pump at the gas station till I find one that will not do it . And stick to that one every time. Also I've noticed the newer style nozzles with out the spring seen to work the best. The ones shell carry that says vsr, or vrs something like that

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Old 11-18-2012, 10:32 PM
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Originally Posted by siggyfreud
I live in a state where we can't fill our own tanks, so I guess this problem would kind of take care of itself. Or rather, it wouldn't be my problem .
+1 here (New Jersey) I've had my '06 GT since new, and this has sporadically happened in the past, but in the last few months, its been happening everytime I fill up. (63,000 mi) now.
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Old 11-18-2012, 11:51 PM
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The 05/06 Mustangs had the worst problems with this. In 07 Ford made a few changes to the gas tank design, but it still can do it on all 05-09 Mustangs. My 08 does it once and a while. My 2011 has never done it however.
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