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myk 09-12-2018 06:02 PM

Stepping into the 21st century
 
Hey guys,

I'm looking to get an '05 GT coupe but I'm not sure what the thing is worth because the only experience I have is with the SN95 platform; I've got two of those .

Car I'm looking at is Legend Lime, auto, 69K and is very clean. I'm not familiar with the options and trim packages, but what I can see is that it has the Shaker 500, cloth seats and no spoiler (?).

https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/mustang...f26ebde20b.jpg
https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/mustang...087a933677.jpg
https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/mustang...5f89089375.jpg
https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/mustang...10ebd6026d.jpg


I'm assuming it's a deluxe trim without the leather seats, but what else do I need to know about this car to determine its worth? Dealer is asking for $11,900 but I'm thinking no more than $10K because of the auto, cloth seats, no spoiler and that weird color. What axle ratio do these cars usually come with? I'm guessing 3.31? What do you guys think? Thanks in advance...

08'MustangDude 09-12-2018 06:23 PM

You can run the VIN for the options.

Yeah, GTs have the 3.31 ratio.

$11,900 for a 2005, with 69,000, not for me... Not when 2012s with their 305HP
V6s are going for less. That GT may be a V8, but it's not as powerful as the
2011+ with the Ecoboost or 3.7 V6s, with more power, that can be had for less.

Take a look around if that's what you really want. I got my '08 V6 for $5813, but
after they had to put $1200 into it, they lost or got just about Book at the time.
They started at $9200, and came way WAY down. Dealers always run a few
$1000 more then private resale. There was a 2012 up here for $10,500, 3.7 V6
and continually came down, and down, to $5000, then all he got was $4800 for it,
with 90-some thousand miles on it. Though, it was "R" titled, you could not tell,
it was fixed up good.

DEALER:

https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/mustang...79f025e22e.jpg

PRIVATE PARTY:
https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/mustang...cbeb43f3e0.jpg

Values with with 69,000 miles

myk 09-12-2018 06:25 PM


Originally Posted by 08'MustangDude (Post 8634118)
You can run the VIN for the options.

Yeah, GTs have the 3.31 ratio.

$11,900 for a 2005, with 69,000, not for me... Not when 2012s with their 305HP
V6s are going for less. That GT may be a V8, but it's not as powerful as the
2011+ with the Ecoboost or 3.7 V6s, with more power, that can be had for less.

Take a look around if that's what you really want. I got my '08 V6 for $5813, but
after they had to put $1200 into it, they lost or got just about Book at the time.
They started at $9200, and came way WAY down. Dealers always run a few
$1000 more then private resale. There was a 2012 up here for $10,500, 3.7 V6
and continually came down, and down, to $5000, then all he got was $4800 for it,
with 90-some thousand miles on it. Though, it was "R" titled, you could not tell,
it was fixed up good.

DEALER:

https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/mustang...79f025e22e.jpg

PRIVATE PARTY:
https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/mustang...cbeb43f3e0.jpg

Values with with 69,000 miles

Thanks for the quick response man. Yeah all of the 5.0's around here are about $20K and that's with close to 100K on the odometer. And I know I'll get flak for this but....I actually prefer the way the 05 to 09's look to any other Mustang design. Also my street racing days are over so the 300hp is good enough for me and will be fine just cruising...

Dino Dino Bambino 09-13-2018 02:32 PM


Originally Posted by myk (Post 8634116)
Hey guys,

I'm looking to get an '05 GT coupe but I'm not sure what the thing is worth because the only experience I have is with the SN95 platform; I've got two of those .

Car I'm looking at is Legend Lime, auto, 69K and is very clean. I'm not familiar with the options and trim packages, but what I can see is that it has the Shaker 500, cloth seats and no spoiler (?)

I stepped up from a '95 GT nearly 5 years ago and the S197 is a vastly improved platform.
The car you're looking at seems to be in very good condition but it's way overpriced and yes, it's a Deluxe model with an optional Shaker 500 and spoiler delete..

myk 09-13-2018 03:06 PM


Originally Posted by Dino Dino Bambino (Post 8634217)
I stepped up from a '95 GT nearly 5 years ago and the S197 is a vastly improved platform.
The car you're looking at seems to be in very good condition but it's way overpriced and yes, it's a Deluxe model with an optional Shaker 500 and spoiler delete..

thanks for the response man! How much should I try to haggle them down to? I'm thinking $9500. The deluxe is beneath the premium trim level right?

Jeff_M 09-13-2018 06:07 PM


Originally Posted by myk (Post 8634119)
And I know I'll get flak for this but....I actually prefer the way the 05 to 09's look to any other Mustang design.

You won't get flak from me, I am in complete agreement that the 05-09's are the best looking Mustangs since the originals. And the color ain't weird, either. I have an '06 legend lime GT convertible and everyone comments on it. They only did that color two years and less than four per cent of the cars made those two years were that color, so they are very rare. I put a gold stripe on the rocker which ties in nicely with the tan top. It's a real looker. Sorry, I can't advise you on the sale price except to say I paid a LOT more than your asking price for my car two months ago with 18k original miles. Best of luck.

Dino Dino Bambino 09-14-2018 12:30 AM


Originally Posted by myk (Post 8634224)
thanks for the response man! How much should I try to haggle them down to? I'm thinking $9500. The deluxe is beneath the premium trim level right?

Yeah, $9.5k is a lot more reasonable given that it's almost 14 years old. The premium spec included leather seats and the Shaker 500 ICE system as standard, with the option of a Shaker 1000 and a big subwoofer mounted in the trunk.
Those who harp on about the 3.7 V6 having five more HP forget that it also has 40lbft less torque. The 4.6 also responds better to simple bolt on performance mods so even if both had just a CAI & tune, the 4.6 would make more HP and the difference in TQ would become even bigger.

myk 09-14-2018 03:41 AM

Yeah its about the torque not the horsepower.

in any case my friends are telling me to go in and lowball the dealer at $7K but I'm going to be a bit more reasonable and start at $8500; with my limit at $10K. It's a nice car but it's not a rare one, and it's not even a Premium GT so I think I'm being more than fair with a range of 9-10K. Any last words of advice would be appreciated. Thanks!

ZEN357 09-14-2018 06:58 AM

You need to get them down on the price if you want it.

Gravydog316 09-14-2018 03:42 PM

Around 9-12 thousand...

the silver dash & leather seats are part of the Interior Upgrade Package


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