Ford Racing Performance Package
11-24-2005, 09:30 AM
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Ford Racing Performance Package
Does anyone know anything about the new Ford Racing Performance Package. The package includes axle back exhaust, a cold air system and a programmer. The package is supposed to produce 20hp at the rear wheels. The price is about $900. I am curious as to who makes the components. Below is the link to Ford.
http://www.fordracingparts.com/home/home.asp
http://www.fordracingparts.com/home/home.asp
11-24-2005, 10:57 AM
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RE: Ford Racing Performance Package
It uses the pro-calibrator. I am curious as to what a Ford Racing tune will do. AND it will be covered by the original warranty. My dealer gives me crap every time I go in about my upgrades.
11-24-2005, 11:08 AM
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RE: Ford Racing Performance Package
Warranty? We don't need no stinkin' warranty!
Seriously though, there's nothing at FRPP that says it won't void your warranty. 20rwhp is easy to get by adjusting the tune from 87 octane to 91 (timing advance). The intake and pipe won't affect performance more than 2hp on an otherwise stock setup.
Sounds overpriced to me. If you want better sounding exhaust, replace cat-back. Intake mods won't matter until you do major engine mods, or put on a blower.
Seriously though, there's nothing at FRPP that says it won't void your warranty. 20rwhp is easy to get by adjusting the tune from 87 octane to 91 (timing advance). The intake and pipe won't affect performance more than 2hp on an otherwise stock setup.
Sounds overpriced to me. If you want better sounding exhaust, replace cat-back. Intake mods won't matter until you do major engine mods, or put on a blower.
11-24-2005, 11:16 AM
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RE: Ford Racing Performance Package
I agree, that sounds way over priced. Especially for 20rwhp. I think you'd be better off going to one of the respected tuners and shopping a power adder package from the that includes a tune. -Joe
11-24-2005, 12:01 PM
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RE: Ford Racing Performance Package
C&L with a custom tune $700 Axle back exhaust $300-500 depending on what you get. I think $900 is in the right ballpark. 20RWH is probably conservative due to it has to be able to get advertised #'s everywhere. High altitude is difficult to post great #'s. And dealers have historically honored Ford Racing upgrades (hell it's adding to their profit sharing) AND YES A WARRANTY IS IMPORTANT!!!
11-24-2005, 02:52 PM
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RE: Ford Racing Performance Package
Ive seen links to the kit before, same question always comes up...will it affect warranty?
As ford has the source for the ecm tune, I REALLY think they need to offer some kind of 'tune selector', to where you could toggle between economy/performance modes- Ive heard of gt sticks peaking near 29 mpg highway, yet stock is still 13 second capable...would be really cool to pick a tune for track and another for long drive home...saturn had something like this long ago if I recall correctly...sisterinlaw had one...
As ford has the source for the ecm tune, I REALLY think they need to offer some kind of 'tune selector', to where you could toggle between economy/performance modes- Ive heard of gt sticks peaking near 29 mpg highway, yet stock is still 13 second capable...would be really cool to pick a tune for track and another for long drive home...saturn had something like this long ago if I recall correctly...sisterinlaw had one...
12-03-2005, 12:00 AM
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RE: Ford Racing Performance Package
Dont worry about warranty issues.....read the following :
A common question is "Do aftermarket parts void my factory warranty?". The answer to this is no! In fact it is illegal for a manufacturer to do so unless they can prove that the added part specifically caused or contributed to the failure. Where is this stated?
Reference: MAGNUSON MOSS WARRANTY ACT - 15 U.S.C. 2302 (C)
This federal law regulates warranties for the protection of consumers. The essence of the law concerning aftermarket auto parts is that a vehicle manufacturer may not condition a written or implied warranty on the consumers using parts or services which are identified by brand, trade, or corporate name (such as the vehicle maker's brand) unless the parts or service are provided free of charge. The law means that the use of an aftermarket part alone is not cause for denying the warranty. However, the law's protection does not extend to aftermarket parts in situations where such parts actually caused the damage being claimed under the warranty. Further, consumers are advised to be aware of any specific terms or conditions stated in the warranty which may result in its being voided. The law states in relevant part:
“No warrantor of a consumer product may condition his written or implied warranty of such product on the consumers using, in connection with such product, any article or service (other than article or service provided without charge under the terms of the warranty) which is identified by brand, trade or corporate name...” (15 U.S.C. 2302(C)).
A common question is "Do aftermarket parts void my factory warranty?". The answer to this is no! In fact it is illegal for a manufacturer to do so unless they can prove that the added part specifically caused or contributed to the failure. Where is this stated?
Reference: MAGNUSON MOSS WARRANTY ACT - 15 U.S.C. 2302 (C)
This federal law regulates warranties for the protection of consumers. The essence of the law concerning aftermarket auto parts is that a vehicle manufacturer may not condition a written or implied warranty on the consumers using parts or services which are identified by brand, trade, or corporate name (such as the vehicle maker's brand) unless the parts or service are provided free of charge. The law means that the use of an aftermarket part alone is not cause for denying the warranty. However, the law's protection does not extend to aftermarket parts in situations where such parts actually caused the damage being claimed under the warranty. Further, consumers are advised to be aware of any specific terms or conditions stated in the warranty which may result in its being voided. The law states in relevant part:
“No warrantor of a consumer product may condition his written or implied warranty of such product on the consumers using, in connection with such product, any article or service (other than article or service provided without charge under the terms of the warranty) which is identified by brand, trade or corporate name...” (15 U.S.C. 2302(C)).
12-03-2005, 12:25 AM
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RE: Ford Racing Performance Package
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C&L with a custom tune $700 Axle back exhaust $300-500 depending on what you get. I think $900 is in the right ballpark. 20RWH is probably conservative due to it has to be able to get advertised #'s everywhere. High altitude is difficult to post great #'s. And dealers have historically honored Ford Racing upgrades (hell it's adding to their profit sharing) AND YES A WARRANTY IS IMPORTANT!!!
C&L with a custom tune $700 Axle back exhaust $300-500 depending on what you get. I think $900 is in the right ballpark. 20RWH is probably conservative due to it has to be able to get advertised #'s everywhere. High altitude is difficult to post great #'s. And dealers have historically honored Ford Racing upgrades (hell it's adding to their profit sharing) AND YES A WARRANTY IS IMPORTANT!!!
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12-03-2005, 12:30 AM
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RE: Ford Racing Performance Package
I called Ford Racing to ask about the warranty. They said it was a dealer by dealer issued and to contact my dealer. Since when does the dealer have anything to do
with the Ford warranty? I called my dealer anyway and they told me it woud "VOID" my warranty. I know I am not allowed to use that phase but it is a direct quote from the dealership.
with the Ford warranty? I called my dealer anyway and they told me it woud "VOID" my warranty. I know I am not allowed to use that phase but it is a direct quote from the dealership.
12-03-2005, 12:47 AM
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RE: Ford Racing Performance Package
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Dont worry about warranty issues.....read the following :
A common question is "Do aftermarket parts void my factory warranty?". The answer to this is no! In fact it is illegal for a manufacturer to do so unless they can prove that the added part specifically caused or contributed to the failure. Where is this stated?
Reference: MAGNUSON MOSS WARRANTY ACT - 15 U.S.C. 2302 (C)
This federal law regulates warranties for the protection of consumers. The essence of the law concerning aftermarket auto parts is that a vehicle manufacturer may not condition a written or implied warranty on the consumers using parts or services which are identified by brand, trade, or corporate name (such as the vehicle maker's brand) unless the parts or service are provided free of charge. The law means that the use of an aftermarket part alone is not cause for denying the warranty. However, the law's protection does not extend to aftermarket parts in situations where such parts actually caused the damage being claimed under the warranty. Further, consumers are advised to be aware of any specific terms or conditions stated in the warranty which may result in its being voided. The law states in relevant part:
“No warrantor of a consumer product may condition his written or implied warranty of such product on the consumers using, in connection with such product, any article or service (other than article or service provided without charge under the terms of the warranty) which is identified by brand, trade or corporate name...” (15 U.S.C. 2302(C)).
Dont worry about warranty issues.....read the following :
A common question is "Do aftermarket parts void my factory warranty?". The answer to this is no! In fact it is illegal for a manufacturer to do so unless they can prove that the added part specifically caused or contributed to the failure. Where is this stated?
Reference: MAGNUSON MOSS WARRANTY ACT - 15 U.S.C. 2302 (C)
This federal law regulates warranties for the protection of consumers. The essence of the law concerning aftermarket auto parts is that a vehicle manufacturer may not condition a written or implied warranty on the consumers using parts or services which are identified by brand, trade, or corporate name (such as the vehicle maker's brand) unless the parts or service are provided free of charge. The law means that the use of an aftermarket part alone is not cause for denying the warranty. However, the law's protection does not extend to aftermarket parts in situations where such parts actually caused the damage being claimed under the warranty. Further, consumers are advised to be aware of any specific terms or conditions stated in the warranty which may result in its being voided. The law states in relevant part:
“No warrantor of a consumer product may condition his written or implied warranty of such product on the consumers using, in connection with such product, any article or service (other than article or service provided without charge under the terms of the warranty) which is identified by brand, trade or corporate name...” (15 U.S.C. 2302(C)).
Saying that people should disregard warranty issues is irresponsible. There is definitely a gray area with things like a cat back or CAI that can't really harm anything but you can not substantially increase the performance of your vehicle beyond OEM specs and not assume some kind of responsibility if something goes wrong.
Generally speaking, if the modifications you have done could not directly have caused the malfunction, Ford will generally warranty the repairs but don't always count on it working that way. You can guarantee that if you have full exhaust and intake with an aggressive tune and your engine starts knowcking that they will, at least TRY to tell you to go fug yourself. Now, if your seatbelts don't retract or your stereo stops working, of course they are going to fix it.
I'm not sure exactly how much information the new computer stores but I'm sure the Dealer will know maximum injector pressures, max RPM, A/F ratios, etc. Therefore, even if you were to remove your tune from the computer and go back to the factory tune, there would still be evidence of the changes you made giving the manufacturer an "out".
It is a good idea to work with your dealer and get things in writing that certain mods, if installed properly, will not void your warranty. I did that with my '03 and never had a problem with warranty issues. However, I had to agree to certain concessions such as the fact that full exhaust would void the emissions warranty and such.
