nitrous vs. s/c
12-11-2005, 03:28 AM
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nitrous vs. s/c
i currently have an 03 lightning and am planning on trading it in next year for a car. Im still a bit undecided about what i want. I am leaning more towards the mustang because of its awesome looks. I definitely am going to get a big power adder but don't really know what these cars handle. Ive done my research and searched through the boards and see great gains on saleens, etc.. I have also looked into some of your nitrous threads.. I might be buying a nitrous kit for the lightning from racetested with a progressive controller. It is a wet kit and all so im sure i can transfer it over to the mustang. How much of a shot can the car handle on a progressive shot with a dynotune of course... also plan on adding some longtubes and exhaust to help it flow better along with the other obvious mods. Should i go with the nitrous or get the s/c application such at the saleen.. I want to hit 11's with the car, and it is going to be auto... what else will it take. do they make shift kits for these auto's and how does the tranny, along with the driveshaft handle the pressure..
12-11-2005, 10:02 PM
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RE: nitrous vs. s/c
i vote N2O. take the other $4400 you would have spent in a s/c and buy cai,gears,xcal2(if it's an auto), drag wheels, and a TCI torque converter. i'm shooting for 11.99 from my auto N/A!! realisricly i think i can run low 12's (12.20-12.40) no problem once i have everything installed and get on the dyno for a custom tune. the auto is fine in these cars the xcal2 allows you to change shift points and shift firmness. no need to put a shift kit in you can do it with the push of a button! the converter is a must have in my book if you really want the auto to shine. the stock t/c stalls at 2500-2700rpm. the TCI stalls at 3200-3400. i had them bump mine up a little(mine stalls 3800-4000!). this car allows you to do this because it has a lockup converter so at highway speed it locks just like the stock one does and presto cruising is normal again. i still get 17+mpg city and 23 or so hiway. just put my l/t headers on so i don't know what difference they make yet but from others here on the forum it's worth about 20hp or .2sec 1/4 mile. with N2O (125hp) i think i could possibly run 10.9's with all the mods i have and have waiting to be done.
12-12-2005, 04:41 PM
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RE: nitrous vs. s/c
My car has a s/c AND nitrous. This is only because I have a vortech and don't make boost till high rpm. I use a msd window swtich and have my nitrous kill at 6500 RPM. I also have to add that I am rebuilding the entire motor to handle even this setup. If money is an issue, I agree with Spyder, I would go for the nitrous (wet kit). I think you will get the most bang for the buck. I also have heard of people running 150 shots on their stock motor but I would recommend only a 75 shot without doing some swapouts. (heads, rods, forged internals, etc)
If your looking for reliabiltiy with your investment, I would go with the Saleen s/c. Makes good power and is the most efficient s/c set up. The low boost and delivery design is pretty safe for your stock motor.
No matter what you go with, you need to be careful getting your car into the 11's on the stock motor. No matter what you use to increase HP, you need to make sure your rods can handle it. I have read many of spyder's posts and he is definitely going about his build right and concentrating on weight with his performace mods for et's.
On a side note, there was this idiot at the track last week that squeezed a 500 shot on his civic right before he left the line and blew his manifold as soon as he hit the gas. The announcer even commented that he must have watched 'fast and the furious' a 100 times. LOL... you get the point?
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If your looking for reliabiltiy with your investment, I would go with the Saleen s/c. Makes good power and is the most efficient s/c set up. The low boost and delivery design is pretty safe for your stock motor.
No matter what you go with, you need to be careful getting your car into the 11's on the stock motor. No matter what you use to increase HP, you need to make sure your rods can handle it. I have read many of spyder's posts and he is definitely going about his build right and concentrating on weight with his performace mods for et's.
On a side note, there was this idiot at the track last week that squeezed a 500 shot on his civic right before he left the line and blew his manifold as soon as he hit the gas. The announcer even commented that he must have watched 'fast and the furious' a 100 times. LOL... you get the point?
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12-12-2005, 10:28 PM
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RE: nitrous vs. s/c
thanks i don't know if i'm right but i'm just doing the same stuff we have done with all our drag cars. weight is the ultimate enemy of a drag car. you don't need a s/c to run 11's, heck justin burcham ran 11.9's without any power addersand only a few mods. he had gotten his car down to i think 3200-3300 with driver. i'm not ready to start chopping up my new car yet but if i was close to running an 11.99 i'd take out the seats and anything i could find to get that extra tenth or so i needed. then put the seats back in and show off my time slip as i cruise to work and back getting 17-20 mpg.
i agree about that saleen s/c. it is the nicest kit out there+ it comes with a 2.3L twin screw s/c. that is capable of 20+ lbs. of boost and should support well over 600hp most likely up to 800hp.
i agree about that saleen s/c. it is the nicest kit out there+ it comes with a 2.3L twin screw s/c. that is capable of 20+ lbs. of boost and should support well over 600hp most likely up to 800hp.
