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3.55 or 3.80???

Old 02-15-2009, 07:32 AM
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Originally Posted by rms8
The single most IMPORTANT thing you should do is NOT randomly ask what everyones opinion is regarding the gear ratio.
I think it's perfectly OK to ask for opinions. It's what sort of opinions you get and how you sift through them all and decide which ones are really useful that matters.


You MUST know what sort of transmission you will be running.
You MUST know the approximate size tire you will be running.
You must know the redline of the motor.
I think I'd want to know what the whole torque curve looked like.

I'll also add that you need to decide just what you want to optimize your gear selection for. Maybe even as specifically as what speed you need to have available in which particular tranny gear.

I think that's what you're saying in your last three paragraphs (bottom quote here).


Take these givens and plug them into any one of the dozens of online gear ratio calculators. Then you will know for sure the exact gear you should look for.
Every single one of the online speeds-in-gears calculators that I've ever seen is slightly off, so while they're better than nothing they might not be good enough in close cases. Not a single one of them considers tire distortion, and consequently are anywhere from 2% to over 3.5% off for most any DOT-legal tire. Good enough for street situations involving speedometer correction, but maybe not so for close choices in competition where it's another little thing that can make the difference between getting a 'W' and either going home or placing further down in the results.


When my motor was NA, I had the 3.89. I then changed the cam and increased the CR. This necessitated a new gear to keep the car at the correct RPM going through the traps. This is when I went to a 4.30. Then I installed a Paxton Supercharger and had to once again revisit the calculator to ensure I was installing the right gear for my combo. This is when I went to the 3.50. I have a Detroit Locker too. Extremely stout, but can get a little wiggly at times.

If this is a street car with less than 400hp stick with the LSD. If you plan on visiting the track with anything more than 400hp, you're better off with the locker due to it's durability. I had a LSD for the longest time, but it just could hold up any longer once I installed the Paxton.
Yeah, in order to finish first, you first have to finish . Don't think I'd plan on running a Paxton with an 8" though (says the guy who gets away with running 3.73's in a 7.5"/7.625" axle with an 350-ish crank HP EFI 350 SBC for street and autocross).


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Old 02-15-2009, 09:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Norm Peterson
...Don't think I'd plan on running a Paxton with an 8" though (says the guy who gets away with running 3.73's in a 7.5"/7.625" axle with an 350-ish crank HP EFI 350 SBC for street and autocross).


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Hi Norm,

As long as you don't hook it, that rearend should be fine. It's when she hooks off the line that you SOON discover your weakest links. I discovered the hard way that I had to screw my tires to my wheels. I then discovered the hard way that my driveshaft wasn't stout enough. See below....


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Old 02-15-2009, 09:46 AM
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Yeah, street performance tires do make for a pretty good "fuse" as far as powertrain durability is concerned. The quality of starting line prep or even DR's or R-compound autocross tires by themselves would probably make for a different outcome (this may help the OP in his decision).

The 7.5", with its 26 spline axle shafts still seems kind of puny compared to the 8.8 that's in my S197 though . . . isn't 7.5/26 about what the 1960's Mustangs came with as sixxers?


Pardon the OT question, but what sort of engineering are you involved with?


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Old 02-15-2009, 05:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Norm Peterson
Pardon the OT question, but what sort of engineering are you involved with?


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Old 02-16-2009, 05:27 AM
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Originally Posted by rms8
Hi Norm,

As long as you don't hook it, that rearend should be fine. It's when she hooks off the line that you SOON discover your weakest links. I discovered the hard way that I had to screw my tires to my wheels. I then discovered the hard way that my driveshaft wasn't stout enough. See below....


That's just awesome....thanks for sharing those pics! That certainly qualifies as a "WTF MOMENT!!!"
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Old 02-16-2009, 09:29 PM
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rms8..... did you ever get any track time before the end of the season? hoping to hook up this year at byron. made my last runs of the season at union grove the first week of november....,mike
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Well, had a last second change of heart....ordered the 4.11's with a Traction Lock unit. I got to thinking about, she won't be driven that frequently...only a fair weather ride...so I figured WTF let's build one that'll uproot the gates of hell! LOL!
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Old 03-08-2009, 10:33 PM
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Originally Posted by totallywiredracing
rms8..... did you ever get any track time before the end of the season? hoping to hook up this year at byron. made my last runs of the season at union grove the first week of november....,mike
HI Mike!

I made it out there 3 times last year and had problems each time. So last year was hor-E-bowl !! I still have to pull the tranny and find out what happened the last time I went. The clutch isn't working yet the pedal feels the same (same amount of pressure on it) ???

Oh well.......
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