steele901

I can't see Ford making any radical changes with the state of the economy and the FoMoCo. If i had to guess they'll play it safe and stick to what is selling well at the moment. I'm sure we'll eventually see a modular 5.0 and the 3.5ecoboost, but i doubt that will happen suddenly or all at once. the 2010 will probably get a slight bump, and then if rumors are correct, we'll see the new 5.0 in 2011. Possible even with a 6-speed manual trans. can't see them doing much to the current motor if its only gonna be in the next body style for a year. just my 2 cents

Elwood

I think he means the scrapping the v8 and only having the ecoboost part is radical...
But yeah even the duratec 35 would be a big improvement.

About steele's comment: You're probably right about the economy part. Not really such a good time to be looking into performance engines. |:-/

83gtragtop

Duratec 37

maxshuty

Ford better make a bigger engine. I know I've heard that everyone will complain if they do make a better engine... (since people that bought the 09 get screwed over) but with the new 290 Horsepower Maximas, Hyundai Genesis, and other "family style cars" the Mustang needs more power. That is the bottom line.

Elwood

Even better

Ken04

hp doesn't mean spit all the time. 250 hp and 187 ft lbs of tourque will fall to a 210 hp and 250 ft lbs of torque in a stoplight to stoplight drag every time. A great engine has good torque, and good hp. The 4.0 has great torque and good hp. The 3.5 will need 250 hp AND a good torque number to be competitive. An engine making 250 hp at 6,000 rpm ? How often do you drive at 6,000 rpm ? The 4.0 has great torque down low in the rpm range making it very easy to drive with a great feeling of acceleration. High 14's, low 15's in the quarter mile is proof of it's good acceleration. Hell the 'muscle cars' of the late 60's ran times like that. But never could return 24 mpg, so what's not to like ?

83gtragtop

The 4.0L is a dinosaur. It dates back to the 3.8L which came out in the eights. Almost every modern V6's including the 3.5L and 3.7L make much more hp and more tq on top of that. The 3.7L makes 270hp and 265tq while the 4.0L makes 210hp and 240tq. Granted the 4.0L makes great low end torque, it quickly runs out of breath. Not to mention it does not do well at the pump. A 3.7L in the Mustang will easily out run the 4.0L mustang. The new Mazda 6 uses the 3.7L is faster then the current V6 Mustang and weights a few hundred pounds more.

Ken04

The 4.0 has been around for 50+ years. It is a dinosaur. It dates back much further than the 3.8, way back. My post had no comparisons on the Cologne V6 to any other motor. It was all what is hp and torque and their benefits. It is a torquey motor. It is not sophisticated, it is not modern, it needs to be replaced. But it does have it's virtues.

From Wikipedia;

The original Ford Cologne V6, also known as the Ford Taunus V6, 640L, was a 60° cast iron block V6 engine built by the Ford Motor Company in Cologne, Germany, hence the name. It was closely related to the Ford Taunus V4 engine, adding two cylinders and no longer requiring a balance shaft. Over the years, the Cologne style V6 evolved from the engine displacements of 1.8, 2.0, 2.3, 2.4, 2.6, 2.8, 2.9 and 4.0 litres engines. All except the Cosworth 24v derivative and later 4.0 litre SOHC engines were pushrod overhead valve engines, with a single camshaft between the banks. The Cologne V6 is still in production. It is still a viable engine and does not closely resemble the original engines it evolved from. There is talk that it is scheduled to be replaced, however Ford has made no formal announcement and recent news suggests it will remain in use in the Mustang as a base model engine into 2010. The new version of the Ford 4.0 L engine is listed as having 210 hp with 240 ft·lbf (330 N·m) torque. Dyno tests by owners, and manufacturers of after markets products, have shown this engine to be underrated in reported hp

fordstangblack

I'm looking forward to see what the new car will look like. Whatever it is, it better be good if Ford wants to compete with other automakers.