KITT

I have not sat in a camaro. I plan to in chicago feb 18th.

I have driven a V6 challener and it was horrible. Unresponsive off the line and just way too heavy for the engine and tranny that it has.

The one bright spot? The 6.2 L HEMI Challenger at 440hp. I drove that and it was AWESOME. All you gotta do is find one and pretend you wanna trade in your mustang. They will let you drive it because of the economy and need of a sale. After you drive it you just say " i gotta think about it".

I plan to do the same thing to Camaro just so i can say ive driven it.

KITT

I agree.........but we still need the engine. Otherwise later model stangs will be burned alive at the line. If we get this Engine........I venture to say that the V6 mustang would be the fastest quarter mile of all 3 cars.

JDWalton

um... who said I was gonna cry. I'm talking about new GTs, the 350 the new v6 would come with is already more then mine without mods. The new proposed turbo would be killing the new GTs with very little time money or effort put into them.

KITT

Oh i totally understand what you mean. Thats why they would put the 5.0 400hp in the GT.

There is one thing that i wonder........Say they dont make the Boss 6.2L v8. Will we possibly see 3 engine choices staring with the 4.0 standard v6 at 210hp? and then go up to the 3.5L ecoboost 355hp..........and finally to the 5.0 V8.

Is this maybe what ford is thinking? Have the Base model mustang have the 4.0. And maybe the Pony Package could have the ecoboost. And GT 5.0 obviously. that actually sounda like a cool engine line up to me.

I for one really hope they put the 6.2L Boss v8 in there to.

ThisBlood147

I think in the next couple of years we'll see Ford going with its current 3.5 or 3.7 motor for the base car (260-275hp). Then you'll have the ecoboost (340-355hp). And finally, apparently, the 5.0 GT (400hp). At least....that's what it looks like right now. This is assuming that the GT will be getting the Coyote motor at all........which I will believe when I see it.

KITT

i really dont see why they wouldnt put the coyote in there. Its an obvious sales pitch!

JDWalton

I still don't think you see what I'm getting at. I'm saying the ecoboost v6 would be killing the 400hp 5.0 your talking about... there only 50 less horsepower, with a much smaller engine. Do you have any idea how easy it is to get 50hp out of a turbo v6. This is why I was saying you might not see a 350hp turbo 6. Anyone with half a brain would take that over a GT that costs more and is much harder to go faster or much much more expensive to add a FI system to.

There was a similar post to this not too long ago where my suggestion was a GT that was the turbo 6 paired with a 6 speed. That would actualy be innovative and put Ford ahead of other domestics in indeas for once, instead of the old philosophy of, lets just give them a bigger motor to get more power. Think of how wildy popular mid 90s RX7, Suparas and 3000GTs were. There still popular for those that can find them today cause how easy they make power, same would be true of a newer turbo mustang.

ThisBlood147

I understand what you're saying, but I don't think Ford is gonna think that much into it. You forget that back in the mid 80's they made a turbo 4 that turned out nearly the same power as the 5.0 V8. It didn't hurt 5.0 sales one little bit. Honestly, I think having the Coyote 5.0 GT and the ecoboost model in the lineup together would work rather well. The old school muscleheads are gonna opt for th 5.0 GT, satisfied that it comes from the factory with a nice amount of power, and the tuner crowd will gladly opt for the ecoboost for the exact reasons you are pointing out........bigtime modability.

Whether or not the ecoboost drivetrain wears the GT badge won't matter to those who want one. And trust me, the modability of that turbo model won't stop ppl from wanting that Coyote powered model......considering that the marketing value of the 5.0 for Ford is simply enormous. They'd be foolhearty not to capitalize on it. Both of these models can coexist and capture lots of market share from Ford's competitors, and it'll be an even bigger boon when those 6 speed trannys come online in the next couple of years. IMHO.......Ford is on the right track with the Mustang (assuming all the stuff we're hearing right now turns out to be true).

JDWalton

lets meet in the middle with a turbo 5.0 huh?

ThisBlood147

NOW you're onto something. I hear the new 4V 5.0 might replace the current 5.4 as well. Wouldn't it be nice if the next gen Cobra was a turbo 5.0?