hunterd557

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First is how it started . . .some length into the conversation . . .then we peruse into how it ended . . . .
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Remember, my screen name is HunterD557 . . . you'll soon see that I can't lose!!!

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hunterd557: oh my god
JaktViggen 006: and a member who has an M- has said it handled better than his Challenger once the rubber was replaced with Iron and poly
hunterd557: dude
hunterd557: an M-body car is going to be horrible
JaktViggen 006: I say it won't
hunterd557: I don't care, unless you completely rebuild the car from the ground up
hunterd557: and at that point, you might as well have purchased a BETTER car
JaktViggen 006: whatcha think I AM gonna be doing?
hunterd557: which isn't hard
JaktViggen 006: is rebuilding it fron teh ground up
JaktViggen 006: do I mind?
JaktViggen 006: no
JaktViggen 006: because I love the car
hunterd557: *sigh*
JaktViggen 006: that's why
hunterd557: you do realize that you're getting in way over your head
hunterd557: and this is going to prove to be quite the laughing stock
JaktViggen 006: yup
JaktViggen 006: ik, but it's gonna be done
hunterd557: LOL
hunterd557: that's whats up
hunterd557: I'm going to give you the hardest time
hunterd557: you know this
hunterd557: I just want you to be prepared for it
JaktViggen 006: I already am
hunterd557: until you prove me wrong or otherwise
JaktViggen 006: I've gotten it from B*** (Name censored for protection against humiliation)
JaktViggen 006: and A***(Name censored for protection against humiliation)
hunterd557: I'm going to ride it out and completely belittle this idea
JaktViggen 006: C*** (Name censored for protection against humiliation) thinks it'll be neat
hunterd557: because it IS a bad idea
hunterd557: oh
JaktViggen 006: suit yourself
hunterd557: it'd be neat
hunterd557: if you were rich
JaktViggen 006: i'm getting a job where I will be...
hunterd557: and AT LEAST had the car already
hunterd557: not just ideas of it
JaktViggen 006: I'll bet ya
JaktViggen 006: it won't cost over $30k
JaktViggen 006: TOTAL
hunterd557: LMAO
hunterd557: dude
hunterd557: you realize that for 30k
hunterd557: my Mustang will be a far better car
hunterd557: including the price of the car
JaktViggen 006: hah
hunterd557: for 30k
JaktViggen 006: how much are you paying for it?
JaktViggen 006: seriously
hunterd557: 17,400
hunterd557: so that gives you a 17,400 dollar head start
JaktViggen 006: yeah, I'll have the suspension and rearend done with that much
JaktViggen 006: (and the rollcage)
hunterd557: 500 bucks says that by the time you're done, my Miata and Mustang will be in a league far above your M-Body
hunterd557: 500 bucks
hunterd557: get in
JaktViggen 006: the engine will cost the rest
hunterd557: take it or leave it
JaktViggen 006: ok
hunterd557: I'll pay you in cash
hunterd557: but
hunterd557: you better be ready to pay me
JaktViggen 006: how bout...
hunterd557: and I'll hold you to it
JaktViggen 006: the loser does the Mexican hat dance for 20 minutes?
hunterd557: LMAO
hunterd557: plus 500 bucks
JaktViggen 006: and pays the winner the moneys
hunterd557: cause I'm about money
JaktViggen 006: k
hunterd557: HELL YES
hunterd557: deal
JaktViggen 006: because it'll be worth the 500 bucks
JaktViggen 006: lol
hunterd557: dude, you're going to put so many tanks of gas in my car
JaktViggen 006: lol
JaktViggen 006: I think I'll have the upper hand
JaktViggen 006: and we'll leave the Miata out of this
hunterd557: okay
hunterd557: LMAO
JaktViggen 006: it's V8 vs v8
hunterd557: okay
JaktViggen 006: we already know the Miata will outhandle all
JaktViggen 006: (nearly)
hunterd557: LOL, I'll put the mustang up
hunterd557: no worries
hunterd557: what's the time frame?
JaktViggen 006: well, let me get started with the truck drivin
JaktViggen 006: I'll probably get the car sometime between July and October
JaktViggen 006: probably August Sept-ish
JaktViggen 006: lets say 2 years for the build
hunterd557: 2 years?
hunterd557: you do know I only have 45 months on this plan?
hunterd557: LOL
hunterd557: okay
hunterd557: whatever
JaktViggen 006: yeah, gotta have cash to put it together
JaktViggen 006: well, we've got things to do, like life as well
hunterd557: :P:
hunterd557: LOL*
hunterd557: okay
hunterd557: well
hunterd557: I'm going to hold you to this, this is an official Night Majik Racing challenge
hunterd557: not only will my car be a better drifter, but it'll be a better daily driver, better race car and more fuel economic
JaktViggen 006: I thought we were leaving the DD duties out of this?
JaktViggen 006: we were just saying drifter and race car wise
hunterd557: okay
hunterd557: we'll do a seris of challenges
JaktViggen 006: no slicks
hunterd557: a set number of drift events, a set number of race events, and . . we'll even get others to drive the cars
hunterd557: to tell us which is better unbiased
JaktViggen 006: and include a trip to the strip
hunterd557: some Miata/Porsche owners
JaktViggen 006: nah
JaktViggen 006: if we can, how bout pros?
hunterd557: LMAO, I know a few pros that would love to drive the dog **** outta my car
hunterd557: LOL
JaktViggen 006: and 3 drivers for the panel
JaktViggen 006: that way there can't be a tie
hunterd557: LMAO
hunterd557: whatever bro
hunterd557: I'm game
hunterd557: I'm going to do so little to my car, it's unbelievable
hunterd557: dude, I'm putting this whole conversation on the Night Majik Racing Forums
JaktViggen 006: whaaa
JaktViggen 006: oh well
hunterd557: LOL
hunterd557: that way I can hold you to it
hunterd557: because I'm right
JaktViggen 006: I understand


For those are wondering what an M-Body is . . .lets take a trip back in time . . .to the 1970s . . .

*sigh*

I really can't lose . .
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The M-Body -

Vehicles on this platform include:

* 1977-1989 Dodge Diplomat
* 1977-1981 Chrysler LeBaron
* 1978-1981 Chrysler Town and Country station wagon
* 1978-1979 Dodge Coronet (South America)
* 1978-1982 Plymouth Caravelle (Canada)
* 1980-1981 Dodge Dart (Mexico)
* 1982-1989 Plymouth Gran Fury
* 1982 Chrysler New Yorker
* 1983 Chrysler New Yorker Fifth Avenue
* 1983-1989 Plymouth Caravelle Salon (Canada)
* 1984-1989 Chrysler Fifth Avenue


There were two wheelbases used:

* 108.7 in - 1980-1981 2-door models
* 112.7 in - 1977-1979 2-door models and 1977-1989 4-door models

Engines used with this platform include:

* 225 Slant 6 (1977-1983)
* 318 V8 (1977-1989)
* 360 V8 (1977-1979)




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Dodge Diplomat
1977 Dodge Diplomat
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Demon 340

too long. sum it up for me.

hunterd557

Basically, my friend says that he can take a 1970s M-Body (described above) and best my Bullitt in 3 seperate events, course racing (Road Atlanta), autocross and drifting.

He set his magical "budget" at "under 30 grand". If it costs him 30 grand, then he might as well just purchase a 2001 BMW M5 and mop the floor with my Mustang.

I don't get it, but it's whatever, also there's 500 bucks riding on the event. To add insult to injury, he has little to no track experience, he's never really raced sanction before and he hasn't even purchased the car yet, nor is there any significant aftermarket for M-bodies as most don't even know what they look like.

I just shrug, he's my friend and all, but I'll gladly take his money, especially since I've warned him that this may not be the best of ideas.

-Stig

FoxGT

depending on how much work goes into it & how smart he is about what needs to be done, it could very well outhandle your car in all aspects. daily driving, drifting, & at a road course. It would have to be taking it a bit far, but if you were up to it you could tube frame a car & get rid of most of the steel in it, reducing weight dramatically. lower the car. & build a suspension for it. if setup right or even decent it could anihalate your car.
Like i said depends on how much work is put into it. It's very doable.

Norm Peterson

< Idly wondering how cheaply a silhouette car could be built for in that part of the country. . . suitably tweaked so it can turn right as well as left . . . >

Norm