front swaybar removal poll
#21
For some reason there are groups of folks out there that I guess just assume the bean counters @ Ford or GM, etc. look the other way and just toss on bigger and more costly bars for the hell of it. The biggest suspension difference between a GT and a Rental Mustang V-6? The swaybars (smaller in front, none in the back).
#22
I have been a moderator on this forum for a while now and I have never seen such heated debates in any other section as I do in this section. (other than OT and the 2005+ main section which is like OT for the S197 guys). Continue on, please keep it respectable, and enjoy the forum..... just had to comment.... peace!
#23
Comment noted.
Unlike drag racing with its 1/8 and 1/4 mile standard measurements, cornering & handling is a topic that has no universal means of comparison. Nor are the basics as widely understood either individually or in combination with one another. So you're apt to get a lot of opinion, much of which may be strongly held based on the individual's own knowledge or variety of experience. Just the nature of the beast.
This is one of the topics where optimizing for the 1/4 mile is clearly in opposition to that for best vehicle handling. It's an either-or situation if all you want to do is "set it and forget it", though as mentioned there are a couple of ways to swap between the two without involving completely unreasonable amounts of work. And there's stuff not yet mentioned that has influence one way or the other.
Compared to some other chassis & handling oriented fora, this one is relatively peaceful.
Norm
Unlike drag racing with its 1/8 and 1/4 mile standard measurements, cornering & handling is a topic that has no universal means of comparison. Nor are the basics as widely understood either individually or in combination with one another. So you're apt to get a lot of opinion, much of which may be strongly held based on the individual's own knowledge or variety of experience. Just the nature of the beast.
This is one of the topics where optimizing for the 1/4 mile is clearly in opposition to that for best vehicle handling. It's an either-or situation if all you want to do is "set it and forget it", though as mentioned there are a couple of ways to swap between the two without involving completely unreasonable amounts of work. And there's stuff not yet mentioned that has influence one way or the other.
Compared to some other chassis & handling oriented fora, this one is relatively peaceful.
Norm
Last edited by Norm Peterson; 11-10-2008 at 07:43 PM.
#28
Howl ong could it take to take it off and on? I'm not concerned with the weight savings, more the ability for the front of the car to move up more, transfering the weight back on the rear tires. I already have issues trying to get DRs to stick to the track, I wonder if this little extra front rotation would help.
I haven't done it yet, but I've wanted to. I guess if I'm going to undo the links I would just do the bottom connection on either side of the car?
I haven't done it yet, but I've wanted to. I guess if I'm going to undo the links I would just do the bottom connection on either side of the car?
#29
I don't think it would be a good idea to disconnect both endlinks, as that leaves the bar ends uncontrolled. Stuff that's loose enough around the steering & suspension to fly out of position and perhaps bind something up makes me nervous.
I'd disconnect and remove the driver side endlink, and perhaps loosen the chassis bracket bolts so the bar can rotate inside the bushings a little more freely. The passenger side endlink then keeps the bar in somewhere near its normal position relative to the suspension.
Norm
I'd disconnect and remove the driver side endlink, and perhaps loosen the chassis bracket bolts so the bar can rotate inside the bushings a little more freely. The passenger side endlink then keeps the bar in somewhere near its normal position relative to the suspension.
Norm
#30
I yanked my swaybar out and replaced it with a Granatelli radiator support almost two years ago. If you're a drag racer, it's an excellent modification. Unless you drive like Mario Andretti on the street, you'll never even notice it's gone. The bottom line is that suspension mods that help you out on the dragstrip will always hurt a little on the street. In my opinion, this is one of the least drastic mods you can do for a decent gain at the strip. It's not the weight reduction that helps the most, it's the difference in weight distribution during launch that makes this an excellent mod. I dropped a consistent 2 tenths in the 1/4 mile back when I was naturally aspirated by combining this mod with a spydershaft. I can't say how much of a difference it would have made by itself because I did the spydershaft and swaybar delete at the same time.
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