TWS: Track Day Report (with pics)
#11
Who are you guys using for SS lines? And are your brake ducts only for the front, or did you route something to cool the rears?
The reason I was thinking of going with Carbotech pads is because they claim you can swap between their street and track pads without having to bed them. That way I wouldn't have to have a separate set of rotors.
The reason I was thinking of going with Carbotech pads is because they claim you can swap between their street and track pads without having to bed them. That way I wouldn't have to have a separate set of rotors.
#12
Which kit do you have from Quantum? The Race kit? and when you put in the ducts into the lower grille, do those inserts just come out or do you have to cut them out? I'm trying to figure out if it would be worth it to go with the Agent 47 kit and the matching lower grille.
#13
Who are you guys using for SS lines? And are your brake ducts only for the front, or did you route something to cool the rears?
The reason I was thinking of going with Carbotech pads is because they claim you can swap between their street and track pads without having to bed them. That way I wouldn't have to have a separate set of rotors.
The reason I was thinking of going with Carbotech pads is because they claim you can swap between their street and track pads without having to bed them. That way I wouldn't have to have a separate set of rotors.
I spoke to Carbotech when I was looking for some new pads this fall and they said you can leave the XP8s on all the time. I didn't ask about the XP10s. XP10s front and XP8s rear is popular.
#14
Which kit do you have from Quantum? The Race kit? and when you put in the ducts into the lower grille, do those inserts just come out or do you have to cut them out? I'm trying to figure out if it would be worth it to go with the Agent 47 kit and the matching lower grille.
#15
I'll be out there this weekend running clockwise. It'll be my first time running clockwise but it is even faster. One thing I've noticed at TWS is that if you leave the traction control on your brakes will fade and overheat because you will overpower the rear brakes, if you didn't deactivate it. I run Hawk HP+s in front currently and Porterfield R4-Ss in the rear with Motul RBF600 and Steeda lines. I've never had too many problems except when track temps are very high, but I want to do brake ducts soon.
#16
Which kit do you have from Quantum? The Race kit? and when you put in the ducts into the lower grille, do those inserts just come out or do you have to cut them out? I'm trying to figure out if it would be worth it to go with the Agent 47 kit and the matching lower grille.
My first set of ducting lasted about 10 minutes on the street as we didn't tie the ducts inboard enough. After getting new and better ducting from a race car shop and using lots of wire wraps I was able to tie it inboard far enough to clear the tires. The replacement hose is a lot stronger but less flexible than the Quantum hose.
I'm thinking about the cooling ducts in the rear for next season but so far have not decided to do it.
My SS lines are also Goodrich and they came with the GT500 brake kit.
Last edited by Sleeper_08; 11-13-2008 at 09:06 PM.
#17
A few points.
If the rotors are warped, don't turn them. They'll only warp again, and faster because of less mass.
I can do the Goodridge lines, and a number of different brake pads. I like HT-10s because they wear very well and stop well too. They are not the ultimate pads, Hawk themselves have a number of newer and more powerful compounds. But if the pads do the job, not much reason to spend more... In fact Argonaut and jayel (sp?) both got a their pads from me.
You need more appropriate pads to deal with the heat. You need more appropriate fluid to deal with the heat. While you are flushing and bleeding brakes, it's a hell of a good time to do Stainless lines. But they aren't necessary on a new car as was previously mentioned. But rubber coated, fiberglass braided lines are not as strong, swell more when hot, and are more easily punctured or torn by debris.
Brakes aren't the best place to be borderline. That said, I think ATE Fluid would be fine. I carry that, as well as a number of others including Castrol SRF which is the gold standard (and costs about the same it seems).
If the rotors are warped, don't turn them. They'll only warp again, and faster because of less mass.
I can do the Goodridge lines, and a number of different brake pads. I like HT-10s because they wear very well and stop well too. They are not the ultimate pads, Hawk themselves have a number of newer and more powerful compounds. But if the pads do the job, not much reason to spend more... In fact Argonaut and jayel (sp?) both got a their pads from me.
You need more appropriate pads to deal with the heat. You need more appropriate fluid to deal with the heat. While you are flushing and bleeding brakes, it's a hell of a good time to do Stainless lines. But they aren't necessary on a new car as was previously mentioned. But rubber coated, fiberglass braided lines are not as strong, swell more when hot, and are more easily punctured or torn by debris.
Brakes aren't the best place to be borderline. That said, I think ATE Fluid would be fine. I carry that, as well as a number of others including Castrol SRF which is the gold standard (and costs about the same it seems).
#18
Sam set me up with HT-10s and ATe Super Blue. That combination will provide plenty of braking and you won't run out. It was probably too much braking for what I needed my first time out but on the third day of my first track event I was fully using all of the braking power the pads and fluid provided.
I think I will step up to the Hawk DTC60s once I finish off the pads I have. Track pads are no good on rotors at all, I also plan to bring spare rotors to track events next season. But like anything involved with braking, it is better to have way too much instead of wishing you had more.
#19
I'll be out there this weekend running clockwise. It'll be my first time running clockwise but it is even faster. One thing I've noticed at TWS is that if you leave the traction control on your brakes will fade and overheat because you will overpower the rear brakes, if you didn't deactivate it. I run Hawk HP+s in front currently and Porterfield R4-Ss in the rear with Motul RBF600 and Steeda lines. I've never had too many problems except when track temps are very high, but I want to do brake ducts soon.
When you look at it, the track looks like it was designed to run CW and when I asked my instructor, he said they run CCW most of the time because it's safer. There's a lot more runoff going CCW on most turns.
#20
6th Gear Member
Congrats, Texotic. Sounds like we know where to find you in the future! I enjoyed reading your post; made me feel like I was there with you. Now to get that GTO to wave you by...