raywang5

toyo(http://www.1010tires.com/Tires/Reviews/Toyo/Extensa+HP), pirelli p-zerp(http://www.1010tires.com/tire.asp?ti...model=P%2DZero) which one is good in real life on street? i need good tires to hook up my paxton supercharger..so dont lose two much control when acc. toyo got a lot higher score than pirelli p-zero..so any idea? any help will be appreciate...

Norm Peterson

Those two tires don't really compete with each other - the Toyo is a high performance value all-season tire while the Pirelli is strictly a summer performance tire. So you can't really compare scores (and there are apparently only two contributors for the Toyo, which isn't much to go on).

On the one hand, Pirelli has been in the high performance tire business for a long time, and as far as I know has always had at least one tire model in the top performance category. A PZero tire is Ford's tire choice for the 2010 Track Pack option.

On the other, Toyo does have a number of serious performance tires in their lineup (T1R, R1R, R888 just to name three off the top of my head).


About here is where I'm going to mention that when I see "cutesy" names for tires ("Extensa?") a big red warning flag goes up. The suggestion is that tires so named are not all about serious performance, and are using catchy names to attract customers who might not be very familiar with tires beyond having to replace them when they're worn out or damaged. The order in which the features are presented . . .
. . . doesn't get into any sort of hardcore performance attributes until about the fourth item down. You can take that as an indication of Toyo's intentions for this tire and how to make it appeal to the target customer.


Just so you know, there is also an Extensa A/S that is specifically intended for plain-Jane sedans and minivans.



Have you looked at the various Nitto offerings? There's more than just the NT555 that quite a few people on this forum seem to be running.


Norm

6+6 Stang

I have the Pirelli M & S i'm assuming all season, I like them but going to 18's from 19's and looking at the Nitto's from Amer. Muscle.com just a thought.

RodeoFlyer

Street tires are like condoms.

BadSteed

My tire guy claimed that the Nittos 555 were Not rated as high in traction as the Pirellis. He ask a good questions, Was the car a daily driver? Would it be in the rain or snow ? Finally do you want a higher milage tire ? If so stay with the harder compounds. I went with the Pirellis, Was glad I did it has snowed here daily since!

6+6 Stang

Passenger: Round and black. They hold air, last a long time, provide a comfortable ride, and don't cost too much. A step up from this is sometimes called "traditional luxury."
Touring: While comfort and long-life are top priorities in this category, precise steering feel and a more controlled ride are important as well.
Grand touring: Sometimes called "performance luxury," these tires offer sportier steering feel, tauter ride, and enhanced grip.
High-performance: Grip, both wet and dry, and crisp steering feel are at least as important as tread life and comfort.
Ultra-high-performance: Grip is king, and precise steering feel is queen. Tread life and ride comfort take a back seat. Some separate out the stickiest street tires into a "max performance" category.
If you like the way your car currently feels, stay with the same tire category or, ideally, the same tire. If you'd like to enhance performance, consider stepping up a category or two

raywang5

ye, thx everybody i think i got my answer, the reason i want to change the tire is the stock Bfgoodrich 235/50zr18 isnt good at the place where i live, the tire always lose control when i try to lauch over 2.5rpm, however, only one snow this winter, thats weired.