rear sits higher with new shocks
#1
rear sits higher with new shocks
I always thought springs dictate the ride height, but after changing my rear shocks to kyb gas-adjusts, there is a significant difference in ride height. I could tell just driving the car. Will these settle some?
#2
Installing gas pressure shocks on a car that did not have gas pressure shocks before will typically raise the car up a little. This is specifically due to the gas pressure creating static force on the shock pistons, which lifts the car until a new equilibrium ride height is reached. Somewhat simplified, however much weight that the gas pressure inside each shock is carrying is deducted from the amount that its spring used to carry, which means that the spring is no longer compressed as far as it used to be . . . IOW a higher ride height.
Picky little bit of gas pressure shock trivia - they also have a small spring rate because the force on the shock pistons does not remain constant over suspension travel.
Norm
Picky little bit of gas pressure shock trivia - they also have a small spring rate because the force on the shock pistons does not remain constant over suspension travel.
Norm
Last edited by Norm Peterson; 04-21-2013 at 07:42 PM.
#3
Well I'm going to give it a few thousand miles, then I'm breaking out the cutoff wheel. I might cut up my stock springs first and see how they ride. They ain't worth anything and I'm never going back to stock height.
#4
The only way that gas pressure shocks will settle is if the gas leaks out.
I'm assuming that if the springs shifted slightly during the shock replacement job, they got re-indexed correctly. Easy enough to check and correct if necessary.
Norm
I'm assuming that if the springs shifted slightly during the shock replacement job, they got re-indexed correctly. Easy enough to check and correct if necessary.
Norm
#5
I looked at the springs the second time and they don't look like they moved. Kyb says the shocks can't change the ride height.
Maybe the springs have to settle again. I'll check the pigtails on the bottom of the springs. Both face drivers side right?
Maybe the springs have to settle again. I'll check the pigtails on the bottom of the springs. Both face drivers side right?
Last edited by moosestang; 04-22-2013 at 09:39 AM.
#6
Decided to cut the springs. Measuring the front and rear from the ground to the fender lip, the front was more than 1 inch lower than the back. my front probably sits a little lower because of the blower and heat exchanger.
I cut off about 3/4 of a coil. I ground the end flat, but probably not necessary.
It only gave me an additional 1/4 inch of drop. I'm going to leave it at that, might cut more later. I read the 03-04 cobra has linear springs and they get 3/4 to 1 inch with 1/2 a coil, but they are higher to begin with.
I cut off about 3/4 of a coil. I ground the end flat, but probably not necessary.
It only gave me an additional 1/4 inch of drop. I'm going to leave it at that, might cut more later. I read the 03-04 cobra has linear springs and they get 3/4 to 1 inch with 1/2 a coil, but they are higher to begin with.
Last edited by moosestang; 04-25-2013 at 01:32 PM.
#7
I read somewhere that the pigtails should both face inward toward the center of the rear, but that shouldn't really affect the ride height.
Maybe try loosening all of the pivot points(LCA, UCA and Panhard) under suspension load and then re-torquing? There might be a bind somewhere? Thats some pretty stiff shocks if they alone are what lifted the car.
Maybe try loosening all of the pivot points(LCA, UCA and Panhard) under suspension load and then re-torquing? There might be a bind somewhere? Thats some pretty stiff shocks if they alone are what lifted the car.
#8
I read somewhere that the pigtails should both face inward toward the center of the rear, but that shouldn't really affect the ride height.
Maybe try loosening all of the pivot points(LCA, UCA and Panhard) under suspension load and then re-torquing? There might be a bind somewhere? Thats some pretty stiff shocks if they alone are what lifted the car.
Maybe try loosening all of the pivot points(LCA, UCA and Panhard) under suspension load and then re-torquing? There might be a bind somewhere? Thats some pretty stiff shocks if they alone are what lifted the car.
I tried loosening and retorquing the upper, because I thought the poly axle bushing might be holding it up some, but it didn't matter.
The shocks are stiff, but I can compress them by pulling down on the tube. The stock shocks were easily compressed off the car. It rides so much better with these shocks.
#9
Decided to cut the springs. Measuring the front and rear from the ground to the fender lip, the front was more than 1 inch lower than the back. my front probably sits a little lower because of the blower and heat exchanger.
I cut off about 3/4 of a coil. I ground the end flat, but probably not necessary.
http://www.pbase.com/image/149862546.jpg
http://www.pbase.com/paulyoly/image/149862548.jpg
It only gave me an additional 1/4 inch of drop. I'm going to leave it at that, might cut more later. I read the 03-04 cobra has linear springs and they get 3/4 to 1 inch with 1/2 a coil, but they are higher to begin with.
http://www.pbase.com/paulyoly/image/149862547.jpg
I cut off about 3/4 of a coil. I ground the end flat, but probably not necessary.
http://www.pbase.com/image/149862546.jpg
http://www.pbase.com/paulyoly/image/149862548.jpg
It only gave me an additional 1/4 inch of drop. I'm going to leave it at that, might cut more later. I read the 03-04 cobra has linear springs and they get 3/4 to 1 inch with 1/2 a coil, but they are higher to begin with.
http://www.pbase.com/paulyoly/image/149862547.jpg
Hey ..... just looking for some info on "how much cut = how much drop in rear" and was wondering if maybe you had any new information to share? I figure it's been time enough for all to settle?
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Last edited by tbear853; 10-10-2013 at 10:46 AM.
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