Originally Posted by Shibito

So I'm very impressed with my Cobalt now, no I did not win though...

Me: 2008 Cobalt 2.4L (mods in sig) Also had my friend with me so that was an extra 150lbs or so.

Camaro Z28: Unknown mods, looked and sounded pretty stock but he did have tint all around.

Story:

I was sitting at a red light and as soon as it turned green the Z28 (last production model so 99-02?) passed me on the left (one way street, he was easily doing 30 and I was coming from a dig) so I floored it. Just before I got to his back bumper (at about 35-40) he floored as well and shot a little smoke out the exhaust. I inched a little on him until I hit 3rd gear at about 58-63 and then he started inching away. I let off at about 83 and he had pulled maybe 3/4-a whole car from where we started. I know many of you do not condone street racing but there was no traffic around us nor any pedestrians. I am extremely proud of my Balt inching on the Z28 in 2nd gear. I'd love to run the guy again after I get a tune but I didn't get to talk to him unfortunately.

Originally Posted by joemama

well i know a stock LS1 would run on a 2.4 easily so it had to be a crappy driver or v6.

and years go as such 98-02 are ls1 and 93-97 have Lt1

only real major difference in body is headlights and grill i think.

either way good run bud

Originally Posted by glhs379

prob a v6 with z28 badges

you will know it when an ls1 z28 jumps on it next to you.

jomama is right, the 93-97 z28's were identical from the pillar back, the only diff is the headlights, exteriorwise.

under the hood is a diff story

Originally Posted by XgunsmokeX

umm 1 tail pipe is a v6, 2 pipes is v8

Originally Posted by Perfect.disguise

Not always.
I don't see it happening with just an intake and a fart can.Post this on an LS1 forum :lol:

Originally Posted by emiller

Yeah but if it was a V8 he would have gotten stomped if the other guy was racing.

Originally Posted by steddy2112

If the guy was going all out yes.

I didn't have to down shift to keep up with the SS/NA I played with and once I did it was rape, but seriously they aren't as slow as people think they are.

Originally Posted by Perfect.disguise

SS/SC's are rather slow stock IMO and look at the whp diff compared to a 2.4.

Originally Posted by Tomtwtwtw

Slow and fast are always relative comparisons. For instance, to some a 2.4 is slow, and to others, it's fast.

To the owner of an LS1 Camaro, a bolt-on 2.4 is SLOW.

Originally Posted by Perfect.disguise

Might have a little to do with having double the whp stock for stock. :lol:

Originally Posted by Shibito

auto



It may have been a Lt1 then.



It was definitely a V8. Had the stock exhaust and I definitely know what a V8 sounds like over a V6.



Had the stock exhaust off a Z28, the kind of rectangular dual exhaust tips.



Yea, I know a guy who went to high school with me who threw an exhaust on his V-6 and thought he was the hottest thing. The Camaro I raced was louder and deeper then his and I'm pretty sure it was stock exhaust?



Yep.

Originally Posted by Perfect.disguise

A LT1 Z28 in good shape is still a drivers race for a SS/SC stock for stock.

Originally Posted by Shibito

It was definitely not a V6. I owned V8 vehicles before my Balt, definitely can hear the difference.



I wouldn't say the car was in great shape. It wasn't horribly abused either though. No visible rust and the tint wasn't purple like most around here lol. I also wouldn't say I'm a whole lot slower then a stock SS S/C. If it weren't for my damn auto crap shift it would have been a lot closer. Of course, I can't say if he was all the way on it for sure or not, I assume so considering that he blew a little smoke out his exhaust when he got on it.

Originally Posted by Perfect.disguise

..... Hmm

Looking at the CSS track times I would say so.

MODDED 2.4's (All 5sp minus the last and have more mods)

2.4 SS, MODDED, NATURALLY ASPIRATED
1.)redssna,14.83@93.97 w/2.20 60',coupe,5-speed,I/H/DP/E/T/ST
2.)Dunkinuts,14.87@93.26 w/2.26 60',coupe,5-speed,I/SM/ST
3.)BULLETSSMOKE,14.91@96.62 w/2.26 60',coupe,5-speed,I/H/DP/E/T/ST
4.)MARIN007,15.04@92.80 w/2.19 60',coupe, 5-speed, I/E/ST
5.)thekingsSS,15.08@94.47 w/2.31 60',coupe,5-speed, I/H/E/T/ST
6.)GTP,15.17@92.33 w/2.35 60',sedan, 5-speed,I/T/ST
7.)PpAzZ1101,15.33@90.27 w/2.30 60',coupe, auto, I/E/T/CD/ST

SS/SC ,STOCK,THE WAY IT IS FROM THE FACTORY
1.)madeinUSA,14.06@99.34 w/2.18 60'
2.)Tofu,14.12@97.29 w/2.00 60'
3.)STG2BALT,14.16@99.94 w/2.21 60'
4.)R&C_rallySS,14.24@100.06 w/2.23 60'
5.)SS4ME, 14.25@98.98 w/2.21 60'
6.)Julex,14.29@99.60 w/2.19 60'
7.)X3r0,14.34@97.81 w/2.23 60'
8.)NGalaxyTimmyo,14.35@99.36 w/2.27 60'
9.)NewEraPerformance,14.37@97.65 w/2.29 60'
10.)chipmonk212121,14.37@98.26 w/2.22 60'

Originally Posted by Shibito

That really isn't a big difference to me. I've rode in a SS S/C and it didn't feel a whole lot more powerful then my car does now, it's mainly my non-tuned transmission that's keeping me from really comparing though.

Originally Posted by Perfect.disguise

I think it has more to than just that, you do know the SS/SC has ~60+whp on the 2.4 dont you stock don't you? Thats like saying there isn't that big of a diff between my car and a C6.

Originally Posted by compucarnut

You are kidding right??

#1) There is no way in hell that was an LS1 Z28, or he wasn't even half throttle. I have an SS/SC that I've raced against a modded 02 SS Z28 that runs 12.7-8@108-110 and I'm just at his back bumper by the end of the race.

#2) I've raced a 2008 2.4 SS and it wasn't even a race. More like a Jamaican sprinter running against a 9 year old.


my mods aren't really that much either.

2.9+stage 2
full exhaust
cooling mods
tune.

Originally Posted by Shibito

Alright, I just stated that the 1/4 mile times don't seem like a big gap to me and the SS S/C I rode in didn't feel a whole lot faster then my car does now. I didn't say my tranny was the only thing holding me back, just probably the biggest single factor.

Originally Posted by compucarnut

The FASTEST 2.4 SS on that list MODDED is a full half second and 5 mph slower in the 1/4 mile than the SLOWEST ss/sc. :twothumbs

5mph in the 1/4 is a LOT.

Originally Posted by steddy2112

On that list.

That list isn't the whole damn world...I have watched SS/SC's run 14.8s

**** I ran a 15.2 in my SS/TC(missed a shift:lol

Originally Posted by Shibito

ummmm... I don't think that's much at all.



Thank you. Not everyone out there with a fast car knows how to shift great and does it 100% of the time.

Originally Posted by Perfect.disguise

Yes, but's it's comparing the best of the two listed on the site. Not a bad run on a SS/SC compared to a good run on a 2.4 and vice versa.

Originally Posted by steddy2112

But a good run of any car can hang with a bad run of anything.

Camaro could have had a bad run while OP had a good run...sheesh

Originally Posted by chris88z24

Holy ****, I am wasting money modding my SC. A bone stock 2.4 with an intake an exhaust runs 13's!