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Old 07-27-2009, 01:20 AM
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Like Bickety said, he should have rolled you pretty easily, the street is the street though.
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Old 07-27-2009, 01:08 PM
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Originally Posted by crash
Well apparently there are good drivers and bad drivers, anything can happen on the streets. It's actually a fair match up when you think about it.
I had a 2000 Mustang GT. My good friend currently owns an E46 M3 that I have been in several time and that I have DRIVEN twice. Other than suspension work, the car is bone stock. I can tell you, for fact, that it will paste your car from a roll - 3.73's and all. There is nothing fair about that matchup. If you said you had DR's and the other guys f'ed up his launch, I could see it. But where the E46 M3 shines is on the highway (and on a road course). The car redlines at 8,000 rpm and make its power all up top. If he was in the right gear and shifted at redline, you would have been 5-6 cars back and fading like you just shut your car off.

I am not ragging on your car (I am a Mustang lover) or calling BS. But an E46 M3 is a MUCH faster car than yours. It's 333 hp, 3400 pounds, and runs a low 13 at 105-107 in the 1/4. If a 3.73 geared New Edge can do that, then I stand corrected. But the key number is the trap. Even the M3 vert wil trap 105+. He should have murdered you from a roll.
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Old 07-27-2009, 03:16 PM
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How much more do the M3 Verts weigh compared to the M3 coupe?
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Old 07-27-2009, 04:06 PM
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Originally Posted by 99GTvert
How much more do the M3 Verts weigh compared to the M3 coupe?
From what I have been able to ascertain from the interweb, the coup is 3,399.5 pounds and the Vert is 3,527 pounds - a difference of 127.5 pounds. I would think the rolling start would negate most of that and from what I have seen both will trap about the same. The biggest performance difference will be between the SMG tranny and the 6 speed manual. The old SMG sucks for drag racing.

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Old 07-27-2009, 05:02 PM
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I was a drivers race on the highway @ 100+MPH with a E46 vert in my 4.10 full bolt on 2004 Gt making 246RWHP... so I beleive it

although there was a big discussion about it way back when... I even had a video to prove it but I guess the "M3 wasn't trying @ 150MPH"

I could also tell you that the E46 M3 I destroyed on the highway with my GTO put up no more of a fight than my friends bone stock 2004 mach 1

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Old 07-27-2009, 05:43 PM
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Originally Posted by crash
Well apparently there are good drivers and bad drivers, anything can happen on the streets. It's actually a fair match up when you think about it.
You mean it's not a fair match up when you think about it, right?
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Old 07-27-2009, 06:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Morbid Intentions
I was a drivers race on the highway @ 100+MPH with a E46 vert in my 4.10 full bolt on 2004 Gt making 246RWHP... so I beleive it

although there was a big discussion about it way back when... I even had a video to prove it but I guess the "M3 wasn't trying @ 150MPH"

I could also tell you that the E46 M3 I destroyed on the highway with my GTO put up no more of a fight than my friends bone stock 2004 mach 1
Hey man, good to see you

Full bolt on, 4.10 geared GT vs a 3.73 geared stock GT. Who's is winning that roll race? 40 mph punch, who you putting your money on? And you never said who won your driver's race with the M3? Care to enlighten us?

And how does your GTO fit into this story? How many more hp does it have that the OP's Mustang? And a 2004 Mach one is going to handle the OP's car.

Thanks for the input.
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Old 07-27-2009, 07:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Morbid Intentions
I was a drivers race on the highway @ 100+MPH with a E46 vert in my 4.10 full bolt on 2004 Gt making 246RWHP... so I beleive it

although there was a big discussion about it way back when... I even had a video to prove it but I guess the "M3 wasn't trying @ 150MPH"

I could also tell you that the E46 M3 I destroyed on the highway with my GTO put up no more of a fight than my friends bone stock 2004 mach 1
I was thinking about that M3 race you had with your GT car. Do you have a link to that video again?
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Old 07-27-2009, 07:07 PM
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Do I really need to put trevors video AGAIN
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Old 07-27-2009, 07:17 PM
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Originally Posted by 99GTvert
I was thinking about that M3 race you had with your GT car. Do you have a link to that video again?
nah, I deleted it long ago back when people stopped crying about the story

and bick, my car was an auto... the OP's 5 speed would more than likely be making around the same RWHP as my full bolt on auto considering the crappy automatics fords are given...

from a 40 roll I edged out my friends 5 speed 2004 mustang GT with stock gearing, a cat back and CAI by ONLY about a car up to 100MPH

and from a 40 roll it was a dead heap up untill 100MPH before the BMW let off and fell way back... then the M3 came barreling up and performed the most disgusting ricer flyby I have ever seen... so I floored it and gave chase

by 150MPH I was right on him keeping pace and he wasn't going anywhere... everyone was up in arms calling BS with video proof I remember it like it was yesterday

also, on average E46 verts are mid-high 13 second cars and only muster around 102MPH traps... low 13's and 105MPH traps are with flawless runs with drag strip vets behind the wheel with coupes... not your everyday BMW yuppie in a vert cruising on the highway


so like I said, to save this thread 800 pages of BS... the story is believable and the performance numbers and "ability" in the BMW is getting blown way out of proportion


another thing to keep in mind is the OP has a Bullitt... while a small performance increase it is still a performance increase where it counts... up high, the increase in RPM and better breathing intake insures that the bullitt (although by a small margin) will trap higher than the GT on average... which a stock GT can and will trap 100MPH... not including the 3.73's

Moreover, a new intake design and mufflers added put the power at 265 hp, later revised to a still conservative 270. More telling is the torque curve, which was vastly improved over the base GT models, 90% of its 302 ft·lbf available from 2000 rpm. This broader torque curve makes itself known at the drag strip, as these special edition mustangs could cover the 1/4 mile in 3-4 tenths of a second faster than a regular GT.
you're welcome for the input ;-)

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