Whats a good turbo size?
#4
RE: Whats a good turbo size?
I love these.
Let's actually do the math instead of guessing.
Generally you want to use as small a turbo as possible. It will spool quicker
reach operating temp faster, cool down quicker and take up less room.
(289ci X 3,000rpm X 80%Ve X .5) / 1728 = 200cfm ....... rpm at which full boost is in.
(289ci X 6,500rpm X 80%Ve X .5) / 1728 = 430cfm ....... max rpm
(14.7 + 20psi)/14.7 = 2.36 pressure ratio.
200 X 2.36 = 472cfm
430 X 2.36 = 1015cfm
1 cf = 13lbs
472 / 13 = 36 lbs/min
1015 / 13 = 78 lbs/min.
Now we have our PR of 2.36 and lbs/min of 36 at 3k and 78 at 6.5k
Plotted out on a T-72 compressor map
Looks like a T-72 would work nice.
You want the blue lines as close to the center as you can
and if the red line crosses the "surge limit", thats not a good thing.
Let's actually do the math instead of guessing.
Generally you want to use as small a turbo as possible. It will spool quicker
reach operating temp faster, cool down quicker and take up less room.
(289ci X 3,000rpm X 80%Ve X .5) / 1728 = 200cfm ....... rpm at which full boost is in.
(289ci X 6,500rpm X 80%Ve X .5) / 1728 = 430cfm ....... max rpm
(14.7 + 20psi)/14.7 = 2.36 pressure ratio.
200 X 2.36 = 472cfm
430 X 2.36 = 1015cfm
1 cf = 13lbs
472 / 13 = 36 lbs/min
1015 / 13 = 78 lbs/min.
Now we have our PR of 2.36 and lbs/min of 36 at 3k and 78 at 6.5k
Plotted out on a T-72 compressor map
Looks like a T-72 would work nice.
You want the blue lines as close to the center as you can
and if the red line crosses the "surge limit", thats not a good thing.
#6
RE: Whats a good turbo size?
ORIGINAL: skatebaker
^ really dude? Did you seriously just do all that figuring lol? You have to much time on your hands haha
^ really dude? Did you seriously just do all that figuring lol? You have to much time on your hands haha
and it took all of 60secs to punch those numbers into a calculator and cut paste the map into Adobe
#7
RE: Whats a good turbo size?
ORIGINAL: r.barn
Well I know the formula by heart from figuring out my custom system
and it took all of 60secs to punch those numbers into a calculator and cut paste the map into Adobe
ORIGINAL: skatebaker
^ really dude? Did you seriously just do all that figuring lol? You have to much time on your hands haha
^ really dude? Did you seriously just do all that figuring lol? You have to much time on your hands haha
and it took all of 60secs to punch those numbers into a calculator and cut paste the map into Adobe
#10
RE: Whats a good turbo size?
ORIGINAL: USMCrebel
lol nope the 4.6 is 281 the 289 is a 4.7
R could you explain you math 4 me
lol nope the 4.6 is 281 the 289 is a 4.7
R could you explain you math 4 me
http://www.amazon.com/Maximum-Boost-.../dp/0837601606
Chopped full of good information on designing and understanding turbo systems