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Old 12-22-2008, 04:28 PM
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Hey, guys. I was just tossing this idea around in my head. How much power can a naturally aspirated 4v make? I know with the 2v you're pretty much maxed out at around 350-370rwhp. And that's with ported heads, big cams, high compression, etc...

But what about a 4v? The 2v's are limited cause they flow like **** (230 cfm on a stage 3 head if you're lucky). I know the 4v's can flow over 300 with good heads, but are they still displacement limited?

I wanted to know cause I'm doing a 4v swap this winter, and wanted to see if I should go with NA cams or blower cams. I figure if I can make 450-500rwhp NA then I can throw a nice shot of nitrous on it to hit 9's. But if that's not really plausible, then I'd go Novi 2000.

Any help is appreciated.
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Old 12-22-2008, 04:49 PM
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500 rwhp NA? Not going to happen, bro... Go boost!
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Old 12-22-2008, 06:00 PM
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you will be hard pressed to hit 500hp NA. i would be shocked. you are going to need boost. also good luck going 9's with under aroud 750whp in a full weight mustang.
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9's are very realistic number with a 750 rwhp full weight stang... On a good tire that is...
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You're going to need a lot just to make 400rwhp. I love the idea of being N/A, but you will come out much cheaper with forced induction.
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Old 12-22-2008, 06:36 PM
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I'm not really too worried about cost. I kinda like the NA with a big nitrous shot. And I'm fully aware how fast 9's are. It won't be full weight, I can tell you that.

I'm just wondering if it's possible to be around 450 or so NA. It's kinda dissapointing if it isn't possible with a 4v, either.

So a 4.6 4v with ported heads (300+cfm flow), really nasty cams (I don't care about streetability), short runner intake, and high compression (13.5:1 or something) with 110 octane race fuel wouldn't be able to make 500rwhp NA?
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Old 12-22-2008, 06:41 PM
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Just remember most power comes from a tune. So make sure you have a good tuner!
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Originally Posted by Xemeth
I'm not really too worried about cost. I kinda like the NA with a big nitrous shot. And I'm fully aware how fast 9's are. It won't be full weight, I can tell you that.

I'm just wondering if it's possible to be around 450 or so NA. It's kinda dissapointing if it isn't possible with a 4v, either.

So a 4.6 4v with ported heads (300+cfm flow), really nasty cams (I don't care about streetability), short runner intake, and high compression (13.5:1 or something) with 110 octane race fuel wouldn't be able to make 500rwhp NA?
Well if your talking about doing something completely unstreetable, then yes. 13.5:1 compression means race gas 24/7. Along with some RADICAL cams, and everything else you mentioned. COMPLETELY UNSTREETABLE...

If I built a Stang that was unstreetable, it better have a FUKK LOAD more than 500 rwhp... A really stupid build, IMO, but to each his own.
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Old 12-22-2008, 07:10 PM
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Originally Posted by mfj
Well if your talking about doing something completely unstreetable, then yes. 13.5:1 compression means race gas 24/7. Along with some RADICAL cams, and everything else you mentioned. COMPLETELY UNSTREETABLE...

If I built a Stang that was unstreetable, it better have a FUKK LOAD more than 500 rwhp... A really stupid build, IMO, but to each his own.
I'm looking for as much power as I can make NA, and then make up the rest with nitrous.

Streetability isn't a concern. I might drive it 1000 miles a year. Trailer it to the track. That sort of thing.

So in that scenario 500rwhp is possible? Cause with a 2v, Mitch (code3GT, now 1SLO85) make like 360 or something rwhp with 13 or 13.5:1 compression, stage 3 heads and cams, P-51 intake, 283ci motor, and some other stuff.
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Hmmm... Mmmmaybe possible... I haven't seen it done yet though... The Big Dawgs of the modular world use boost.
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