A waste of money?
07-09-2006, 03:38 AM
#1
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A waste of money?
I'm wanting to dual out my 04 3.8 V6 Stang. The problem... I don't understand what the difference between "true dual" and false dual. Would I be wasting my money without "true dual" or is this term a market trick of some sort. In addition I'm looking at a magniflow dual exaust kit, how do I know which it is?
Second question: So I looked up cold air intake on the forums and found that most people claim they are a waste of money performance wise. People say they only add about 2-3 horsepower but I have found CAI's claiming around 10 HP at the wheels. At the wheels?
Thanks
Easy Drive
Second question: So I looked up cold air intake on the forums and found that most people claim they are a waste of money performance wise. People say they only add about 2-3 horsepower but I have found CAI's claiming around 10 HP at the wheels. At the wheels?
Thanks
Easy Drive
07-09-2006, 03:45 AM
#2
RE: A waste of money?
Yea, that's 10 hp on a new GT, it's all about engine size, air restiction, and displacement, the 3.8L has pretty good airflow stock, so while the cai is a good investment for your mpg, engine life, and throttle responce, it's not really a good investment if you're looking for raw hp. True duals means that you have two seprate pipes all the way back, that's your headers, h or x pipe (depends on which one you want I recommend x pipes, but h pipes don't sound bad on Mags, just get the off road h pipes, means they have no cats, they'll sound way better, oh I had mags on my 98 sixer with an off road x pipe, and believe it or not, the damn thing sounded better sound quality wise than my V8 with flowmasters sounds), and a set of GT Magnaflow catbacks. A false, or y pipe dual exhaust system is your headers, your stock y pipe, and another set of pipes that bolts up to the end of the y and splits it back into two pipes. Only this is that y pipe V6 systems sound ricy, especially the Magnaflow systems. Do it right and go true dual or nothing. Oh that's a V6 x or h pipe, a GT won't work. http:/www.mustangtuning.com/ sells one, and so does pypes.
07-09-2006, 05:29 AM
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RE: A waste of money?
exactly
true duals look likes this
--------O------
--------O------
- are the taillights and O are the mufflers
this is how STOCK are (see how it forms a Y for Ypipe)
Y
I
I
I
the pipes come off your engine and meet into ONE pipe to exit the car
FAKE DUAL ARE come out the engine as 2 pipes....combine to make one and at the last second that one pipe splits into two...just to give the look of TRUE DUALS..but its FAKE
Y
I
I
I
^
As for the CAi they give a good deal of power..and react better to the more mods you have. Basic parts to get for power are Pullies, MAC CAI and Dual Exhaust
true duals look likes this
--------O------
--------O------
- are the taillights and O are the mufflers
this is how STOCK are (see how it forms a Y for Ypipe)
Y
I
I
I
the pipes come off your engine and meet into ONE pipe to exit the car
FAKE DUAL ARE come out the engine as 2 pipes....combine to make one and at the last second that one pipe splits into two...just to give the look of TRUE DUALS..but its FAKE
Y
I
I
I
^
As for the CAi they give a good deal of power..and react better to the more mods you have. Basic parts to get for power are Pullies, MAC CAI and Dual Exhaust
07-09-2006, 06:48 AM
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RE: A waste of money?
ORIGINAL: Autobadges.com
exactly
true duals look likes this
--------O------
--------O------
- are the taillights and O are the mufflers
this is how STOCK are (see how it forms a Y for Ypipe)
Y
I
I
I
the pipes come off your engine and meet into ONE pipe to exit the car
FAKE DUAL ARE come out the engine as 2 pipes....combine to make one and at the last second that one pipe splits into two...just to give the look of TRUE DUALS..but its FAKE
Y
I
I
I
^
As for the CAi they give a good deal of power..and react better to the more mods you have. Basic parts to get for power are Pullies, MAC CAI and Dual Exhaust
exactly
true duals look likes this
--------O------
--------O------
- are the taillights and O are the mufflers
this is how STOCK are (see how it forms a Y for Ypipe)
Y
I
I
I
the pipes come off your engine and meet into ONE pipe to exit the car
FAKE DUAL ARE come out the engine as 2 pipes....combine to make one and at the last second that one pipe splits into two...just to give the look of TRUE DUALS..but its FAKE
Y
I
I
I
^
As for the CAi they give a good deal of power..and react better to the more mods you have. Basic parts to get for power are Pullies, MAC CAI and Dual Exhaust
07-09-2006, 12:32 PM
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RE: A waste of money?
ORIGINAL: Autobadges.com
exactly
true duals look likes this
--------O------
--------O------
- are the taillights and O are the mufflers
this is how STOCK are (see how it forms a Y for Ypipe)
Y
I
I
I
the pipes come off your engine and meet into ONE pipe to exit the car
FAKE DUAL ARE come out the engine as 2 pipes....combine to make one and at the last second that one pipe splits into two...just to give the look of TRUE DUALS..but its FAKE
Y
I
I
I
^
As for the CAi they give a good deal of power..and react better to the more mods you have. Basic parts to get for power are Pullies, MAC CAI and Dual Exhaust
exactly
true duals look likes this
--------O------
--------O------
- are the taillights and O are the mufflers
this is how STOCK are (see how it forms a Y for Ypipe)
Y
I
I
I
the pipes come off your engine and meet into ONE pipe to exit the car
FAKE DUAL ARE come out the engine as 2 pipes....combine to make one and at the last second that one pipe splits into two...just to give the look of TRUE DUALS..but its FAKE
Y
I
I
I
^
As for the CAi they give a good deal of power..and react better to the more mods you have. Basic parts to get for power are Pullies, MAC CAI and Dual Exhaust
07-09-2006, 01:54 PM
#9
RE: A waste of money?
How about this:
1.) Stock Y pipe
E E
Y
I
I
O
I
V
2.) Y pipe to dual kit
E E
Y
^
I I
O O
I I
V V
3.) True Duals or Straights
E E
I I
I I
I I
O O
I I
V V
4.) X pipe
E E
X
I I
I I
O O
I I
V V
5.) H pipe
E E
H
I I
I I
O O
I I
V V
Where E-Headers, X-x pipe, h-h pipe, I-piping, y-y pipe, o-mufflers,V-exit/tailpipes
1.) Stock Y pipe
E E
Y
I
I
O
I
V
2.) Y pipe to dual kit
E E
Y
^
I I
O O
I I
V V
3.) True Duals or Straights
E E
I I
I I
I I
O O
I I
V V
4.) X pipe
E E
X
I I
I I
O O
I I
V V
5.) H pipe
E E
H
I I
I I
O O
I I
V V
Where E-Headers, X-x pipe, h-h pipe, I-piping, y-y pipe, o-mufflers,V-exit/tailpipes
07-09-2006, 01:56 PM
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RE: A waste of money?
ORIGINAL: jthorn9
How about this:
E E E E E E E E E E
Y X H I I Y
I I I I I I I ^
I I I I I I I I I
O O O O O O O O O
I I I I I I I I I
V V V V V V V V V
1.) Stock Y pipe
2.) X pipe
3.) H pipe
4.) True Duals, or straights
5.) Y pipe to dual kit
Where E-Headers, X-x pipe, h-h pipe, I-piping, y-y pipe, o-mufflers,V-exit/tailpipes
How about this:
E E E E E E E E E E
Y X H I I Y
I I I I I I I ^
I I I I I I I I I
O O O O O O O O O
I I I I I I I I I
V V V V V V V V V
1.) Stock Y pipe
2.) X pipe
3.) H pipe
4.) True Duals, or straights
5.) Y pipe to dual kit
Where E-Headers, X-x pipe, h-h pipe, I-piping, y-y pipe, o-mufflers,V-exit/tailpipes