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Old 07-24-2006, 02:20 AM
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OK here is a stupid question: If the purpose of turbochargers and superchargers is to compress air, what if you install a 12volt 300psi compressor?
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Old 07-24-2006, 02:51 AM
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my guess would be too much PSI. Even at 12 PSI I think the engine being pushed rather hard with stock intrenals. I could be wrong, but....
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Old 07-24-2006, 03:03 AM
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The PSI can be controlled but will this actually work? I can buy a mini compressor for 30 bucks so if it could work, that would save me a few thousand of dollars for a supercharger or a turbocharger.
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Old 07-24-2006, 03:11 AM
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it makes 300psi in the tiny most likely half inch wide tube that it compresses into. In a far larger area like our intake manifold, there will be much less pressure. Plus, its just not reliable and VERY dangerous for your motor to do something like that.
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Old 07-24-2006, 03:17 AM
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let's just say that if it would have worked, it would probably be on the market for a few grand too lol
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Old 07-24-2006, 03:20 AM
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There are actually two factors to consider - PSI (pressure) and CFM (airflow).

While you can very likely find a 12 volt compressor which claims it can output 300psi, I think that you would be hard pressed to find one that is capable of moving 400-500 cubic feet of air per minute - much less doing so with enough force to have that air arrive at the intake valves at 6 or 7 psi.

You should also keep in mind that nothing is free in an energy equation. Turbochargers and superchargers actually consume engine power in operation, known as parasitic loss. Turbos resist the flow of exhaust, S/C's resist crankshaft rotation. If your electric compressor is to be powerful enough to emulate a conventional forced induction system, it's either going to need its own independent power source / fuel supply (batteries?) or it will have to run off the car's electrical system - which would likely require the use of a much heavier duty alternator.

In a nutshell, you need to find a way to have it make more power than you will consume when hauling all of the new stuff around.....

Know what I mean?

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Old 07-24-2006, 03:38 AM
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for one, it would have to be the size of 2 of ur cars to hold enough air, for even 1 trip down the track, if even that. Would weigh so much itd be retarded, and the eventual cost would probably be more, and ud triple the weight of ur car, therefore becoming slower lol
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Old 07-24-2006, 03:52 AM
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ORIGINAL: 8cd03gro

it makes 300psi in the tiny most likely half inch wide tube that it compresses into. In a far larger area like our intake manifold, there will be much less pressure. Plus, its just not reliable and VERY dangerous for your motor to do something like that.
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I guess I'll be the first one to mention the Turbonator....
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Old 07-24-2006, 12:15 PM
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This is what I call a "dumb post" [sm=badidea.gif]
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