SpecterGT260

ET and hp are different there chief. u can hit 12s in a light *** car with 200-250 whp easy. in fact, the civic hatches do it with 220 bhp. so ur dozen people dont impress me. the fact of the matter is, u pulled a couple numbers out of your *** (especially the torque good gawd the torque [sm=headbang.gif]). some of the larger audi motors will see good gains from a chip, but the small turbos do not. they see better gains from bolt ons, like all small turbo cars in existence.

acascianelli

Whatever...

I'm not going to bother to try to convince you, go look around at 1.8T/2.0T tuning site if you want and you'll see that I'm right but for now you can believe what you want.

V6 Mustang Stock Automatic < GTI DSG Stock

Back to the GTI, its not a automatic, its a sequential manual with 2 clutches. It can complete a shift in less than 10ms, which makes it the fastest sequential manual in the world. Faster than the gearboxes in most Ferrari's, with the exception of the non-road legal FXX and maybe the F430 Challenge.

SpecterGT260

i did....

you arent right.


there were guys hitting 200 whp after a chip, DP, tuboback exhaust, and intakes. basically all the major bolt ons and a tune to net 50 hp. that sounds much more reasonable (and they had dynojet graphs as opposed to *** dynos ) for a car with stock boost and turbo. and the torque was a much more reasonable ~210 at the wheels. i saw about half a dozen of these scanning GTI forums (which, btw, its hard as hell to find another forum with the organization we have here.... LS1Tech is the only other one ive found thats any good).

Puerto Rico 4.6

Its not form ECU alone , they also increase the boost in the reflash or manually. I have raced a new Audi A3 DSG from a roll i can take him but at the top of forth gear he blows by me. At the track he does 14.8-14.9 at 94 and the audi is a bit heavier than the GTi since its a four door.

acascianelli

The boost is controlled by the ECU. I know on the 150hp 1.8T's the stock ecu spiked the turbo at 9psi but will hold 7psi, after its chipped it will spike to 19psi and hold 14psi(depending on which chip you get). Thats pretty much the highest boost you can get on the K03 or K03s turbo. Anything higher boost and you need to upgrade to something else, K04 is the next biggest but they also have T3/T4 hybrid turbo setups.

acascianelli

Was it a 2.0T or a 3.2 VR6?

Sevalley

I had a 1.8T. Those turbo VWs are nothing like our mustangs. The smallest mod and you get significant gains, esp with the chip (obviously not 50 hp to the wheels or anything, bt still a HUGE difference), which benefits those turbo engines almost like putting a supercharger on ours, esp with intake and exhaust. Bone stock GTI v. stock v6 stang I would say would come down to the driver (well, on auto I dont know what it would come down to, luck?), but that same GTI with ANY mod, I would def put my money on the gti. Off the line the stang will always be ahead, but anything past 2nd gear, such as a rolling start or esp if your already cruising on the freeway, and the GTI will BLOW us away. Those Turbos are all high end power, our v6s are all about low end torque. I dont know about you guys, but I get NO power from 5th gear. 4th isnt anything to talk about either.

added: I just saw the quote about vw forums. VWVORTEX.COM is the best car forum I have ever seen, I have been lookin for a mustang forum as active as that one is. This is the best mustang forum I have found, does anyone have another good one?

Puerto Rico 4.6

2.0 T

8cd03gro

any turbo car will gain alot more than 10 horsepower with a tune...especially a gti. they have really strong blocks and their stock injectors are very high flowing so with just a tune (the boost can be turned up dont forget) they can gain alot.

imbus

the stock hp on the new gti is 200 or 205. the night he got it he picked me up and we were doin about 135 on the highway...its fast as hell and the throttle response in sports mode is much better than ours. i got to race one from about a 40 mph roll and we were dead even until 113...than i saw that he was an extremely fat man so that might be why