Xcharger Driving Impressions
10-24-2006, 06:32 PM
#21
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RE: Xcharger Driving Impressions
ORIGINAL: LX200
It's very important you understand why you want to go to forced induction.
Are you trying to build a car to take to the track, where you will concentrate on 1/4 mile times?
Or do you intend to build a steet racer?
Or do you just want a car that has significantly better response and head snap in day to day driving?
For instance, I have narrowed my search to Xcharger because I NEVER intend to drive on a drag strip, and I do NOT intend to street race, but I want maximum seat of the pants appeal in my day to day driving. I virtually never take my car over 5000 RPM, so the extremely large amounts of torque produced by the XCharger (i.e. max torque at 2100 RPM) will give me an awesome seat of the pants performance.......
..... however, if I went to a track, the turbo boys and intercooled Vortec boys will spank me in the 1/4 mile.... but I'm not going to the track.......
Get it? There is no "best" until you think about what "best" means? I could drive you around in an XCharger car all day, snapping your head off, beating GT's from stop light to stop light, smoking a turbo car in a 150 ft drag between stop lights, and then go to the track and get dusted off by every turbo and Vortech in the 1/4 mile.
It's like Burger King.... have it your way.... but you have to know if you want a Whopper or a double cheese burger.
It's very important you understand why you want to go to forced induction.
Are you trying to build a car to take to the track, where you will concentrate on 1/4 mile times?
Or do you intend to build a steet racer?
Or do you just want a car that has significantly better response and head snap in day to day driving?
For instance, I have narrowed my search to Xcharger because I NEVER intend to drive on a drag strip, and I do NOT intend to street race, but I want maximum seat of the pants appeal in my day to day driving. I virtually never take my car over 5000 RPM, so the extremely large amounts of torque produced by the XCharger (i.e. max torque at 2100 RPM) will give me an awesome seat of the pants performance.......
..... however, if I went to a track, the turbo boys and intercooled Vortec boys will spank me in the 1/4 mile.... but I'm not going to the track.......
Get it? There is no "best" until you think about what "best" means? I could drive you around in an XCharger car all day, snapping your head off, beating GT's from stop light to stop light, smoking a turbo car in a 150 ft drag between stop lights, and then go to the track and get dusted off by every turbo and Vortech in the 1/4 mile.
It's like Burger King.... have it your way.... but you have to know if you want a Whopper or a double cheese burger.
Good points there LX. I've toyed with the idea of going turbo with my vert. Even a S/C holds some interest. However, I know how I plan to use the car, and after much consideration I've decided to keep it naturally aspirated (N/A). With gears & LSD, I will be completely satisfied with running mid-to-upper 14's. I'll save up the money I would have spent on a power adder and use it to buy another car to tinker with. It will be a Ford, but probably not a Mustang (something with a carburator
).Bill Jr.
28hopup
10-24-2006, 06:38 PM
#22
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RE: Xcharger Driving Impressions
ORIGINAL: rygenstormlocke
Well, there was more than just excitement at the track today, there was excitement on the street. Navbtcret let me take his Xcharged 4.0L for a test drive to the track. We are talking a full hour of driving, local and highways.
For local driving, this thing is great. I got on it a tad coming around a corner out of a parking lot, and I mean just a tad and I could feel it…INSTANTLY. The low end power of this kit is impressive.
For highway driving, it pulls hard…and keeps the power there. No, its not like a centri or turbo, but it does maintains power, driving it on the top end you can see why the power does not drop off.
Closing impressions are this is an extremely streetable kit. It feels 100% NA. It feels the most natural of FI systems out there, which is good if you let your other half drive the car. It nets solid times, and really feels like a stock car with more power. This is where I can see a lot of members wanting it.
Also, I think this thing will make an awesome bracket car. Because the power progression is so evened out and smooth, I can see extremely consistent times with this car.
Well, there was more than just excitement at the track today, there was excitement on the street. Navbtcret let me take his Xcharged 4.0L for a test drive to the track. We are talking a full hour of driving, local and highways.
For local driving, this thing is great. I got on it a tad coming around a corner out of a parking lot, and I mean just a tad and I could feel it…INSTANTLY. The low end power of this kit is impressive.
For highway driving, it pulls hard…and keeps the power there. No, its not like a centri or turbo, but it does maintains power, driving it on the top end you can see why the power does not drop off.
Closing impressions are this is an extremely streetable kit. It feels 100% NA. It feels the most natural of FI systems out there, which is good if you let your other half drive the car. It nets solid times, and really feels like a stock car with more power. This is where I can see a lot of members wanting it.
Also, I think this thing will make an awesome bracket car. Because the power progression is so evened out and smooth, I can see extremely consistent times with this car.
Thanks for the post...
10-24-2006, 06:48 PM
#23
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RE: Xcharger Driving Impressions
ORIGINAL: LX200
It's very important you understand why you want to go to forced induction.
Are you trying to build a car to take to the track, where you will concentrate on 1/4 mile times?
Or do you intend to build a steet racer?
Or do you just want a car that has significantly better response and head snap in day to day driving?
For instance, I have narrowed my search to Xcharger because I NEVER intend to drive on a drag strip, and I do NOT intend to street race, but I want maximum seat of the pants appeal in my day to day driving. I virtually never take my car over 5000 RPM, so the extremely large amounts of torque produced by the XCharger (i.e. max torque at 2100 RPM) will give me an awesome seat of the pants performance.......
..... however, if I went to a track, the turbo boys and intercooled Vortec boys will spank me in the 1/4 mile.... but I'm not going to the track.......
Get it? There is no "best" until you think about what "best" means? I could drive you around in an XCharger car all day, snapping your head off, beating GT's from stop light to stop light, smoking a turbo car in a 150 ft drag between stop lights, and then go to the track and get dusted off by every turbo and Vortech in the 1/4 mile.
It's like Burger King.... have it your way.... but you have to know if you want a Whopper or a double cheese burger.
It's very important you understand why you want to go to forced induction.
Are you trying to build a car to take to the track, where you will concentrate on 1/4 mile times?
Or do you intend to build a steet racer?
Or do you just want a car that has significantly better response and head snap in day to day driving?
For instance, I have narrowed my search to Xcharger because I NEVER intend to drive on a drag strip, and I do NOT intend to street race, but I want maximum seat of the pants appeal in my day to day driving. I virtually never take my car over 5000 RPM, so the extremely large amounts of torque produced by the XCharger (i.e. max torque at 2100 RPM) will give me an awesome seat of the pants performance.......
..... however, if I went to a track, the turbo boys and intercooled Vortec boys will spank me in the 1/4 mile.... but I'm not going to the track.......
Get it? There is no "best" until you think about what "best" means? I could drive you around in an XCharger car all day, snapping your head off, beating GT's from stop light to stop light, smoking a turbo car in a 150 ft drag between stop lights, and then go to the track and get dusted off by every turbo and Vortech in the 1/4 mile.
It's like Burger King.... have it your way.... but you have to know if you want a Whopper or a double cheese burger.
Now I don't have 330' for the x-charger.... but if you look even at the 1/8 mile numbers:
x-charger: 8.718@80.30
vortech: 8.475@82.26
So at the 1/8 of a mile i'm .24 ahead... you are getting spanked before the 1/4 mile... LOL! And actually if you look at the 1/4 mile results and work backwards... now i understand things are not linear here.. but I'm guessing even in a 150 foot race the x-charger and me are going to be about even... I would say though that at the 330' the I'm starting to pull away..
10-24-2006, 07:03 PM
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RE: Xcharger Driving Impressions
ORIGINAL: 28hopup
Good points there LX. I've toyed with the idea of going turbo with my vert. Even a S/C holds some interest. However, I know how I plan to use the car, and after much consideration I've decided to keep it naturally aspirated (N/A). With gears & LSD, I will be completely satisfied with running mid-to-upper 14's. I'll save up the money I would have spent on a power adder and use it to buy another car to tinker with. It will be a Ford, but probably not a Mustang (something with a carburator).
Bill Jr.
28hopup
ORIGINAL: LX200
It's very important you understand why you want to go to forced induction.
Are you trying to build a car to take to the track, where you will concentrate on 1/4 mile times?
Or do you intend to build a steet racer?
Or do you just want a car that has significantly better response and head snap in day to day driving?
For instance, I have narrowed my search to Xcharger because I NEVER intend to drive on a drag strip, and I do NOT intend to street race, but I want maximum seat of the pants appeal in my day to day driving. I virtually never take my car over 5000 RPM, so the extremely large amounts of torque produced by the XCharger (i.e. max torque at 2100 RPM) will give me an awesome seat of the pants performance.......
..... however, if I went to a track, the turbo boys and intercooled Vortec boys will spank me in the 1/4 mile.... but I'm not going to the track.......
Get it? There is no "best" until you think about what "best" means? I could drive you around in an XCharger car all day, snapping your head off, beating GT's from stop light to stop light, smoking a turbo car in a 150 ft drag between stop lights, and then go to the track and get dusted off by every turbo and Vortech in the 1/4 mile.
It's like Burger King.... have it your way.... but you have to know if you want a Whopper or a double cheese burger.
It's very important you understand why you want to go to forced induction.
Are you trying to build a car to take to the track, where you will concentrate on 1/4 mile times?
Or do you intend to build a steet racer?
Or do you just want a car that has significantly better response and head snap in day to day driving?
For instance, I have narrowed my search to Xcharger because I NEVER intend to drive on a drag strip, and I do NOT intend to street race, but I want maximum seat of the pants appeal in my day to day driving. I virtually never take my car over 5000 RPM, so the extremely large amounts of torque produced by the XCharger (i.e. max torque at 2100 RPM) will give me an awesome seat of the pants performance.......
..... however, if I went to a track, the turbo boys and intercooled Vortec boys will spank me in the 1/4 mile.... but I'm not going to the track.......
Get it? There is no "best" until you think about what "best" means? I could drive you around in an XCharger car all day, snapping your head off, beating GT's from stop light to stop light, smoking a turbo car in a 150 ft drag between stop lights, and then go to the track and get dusted off by every turbo and Vortech in the 1/4 mile.
It's like Burger King.... have it your way.... but you have to know if you want a Whopper or a double cheese burger.
Good points there LX. I've toyed with the idea of going turbo with my vert. Even a S/C holds some interest. However, I know how I plan to use the car, and after much consideration I've decided to keep it naturally aspirated (N/A). With gears & LSD, I will be completely satisfied with running mid-to-upper 14's. I'll save up the money I would have spent on a power adder and use it to buy another car to tinker with. It will be a Ford, but probably not a Mustang (something with a carburator
).Bill Jr.
28hopup
ARGGHHHHH. If only I was rich, then I would do FI, get a 2007 GT now, and then trade it on a new GT in 2009. But... I got kids to put through college....
In the end, there is a 50% chance I will stay N/A, and deal with my demons...
10-24-2006, 07:23 PM
#26
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RE: Xcharger Driving Impressions
ORIGINAL: LX200
Are those times for the HiPo XCharger kit, or the California kit??
Are those times for the HiPo XCharger kit, or the California kit??
10-24-2006, 07:25 PM
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RE: Xcharger Driving Impressions
ORIGINAL: 28hopup
So are you thinking that Stella will get reborn with a SC??? Are you getting a taste for bracket racing now Todd??? (j/k)
Thanks for the post...
ORIGINAL: rygenstormlocke
Well, there was more than just excitement at the track today, there was excitement on the street. Navbtcret let me take his Xcharged 4.0L for a test drive to the track. We are talking a full hour of driving, local and highways.
For local driving, this thing is great. I got on it a tad coming around a corner out of a parking lot, and I mean just a tad and I could feel it…INSTANTLY. The low end power of this kit is impressive.
For highway driving, it pulls hard…and keeps the power there. No, its not like a centri or turbo, but it does maintains power, driving it on the top end you can see why the power does not drop off.
Closing impressions are this is an extremely streetable kit. It feels 100% NA. It feels the most natural of FI systems out there, which is good if you let your other half drive the car. It nets solid times, and really feels like a stock car with more power. This is where I can see a lot of members wanting it.
Also, I think this thing will make an awesome bracket car. Because the power progression is so evened out and smooth, I can see extremely consistent times with this car.
Well, there was more than just excitement at the track today, there was excitement on the street. Navbtcret let me take his Xcharged 4.0L for a test drive to the track. We are talking a full hour of driving, local and highways.
For local driving, this thing is great. I got on it a tad coming around a corner out of a parking lot, and I mean just a tad and I could feel it…INSTANTLY. The low end power of this kit is impressive.
For highway driving, it pulls hard…and keeps the power there. No, its not like a centri or turbo, but it does maintains power, driving it on the top end you can see why the power does not drop off.
Closing impressions are this is an extremely streetable kit. It feels 100% NA. It feels the most natural of FI systems out there, which is good if you let your other half drive the car. It nets solid times, and really feels like a stock car with more power. This is where I can see a lot of members wanting it.
Also, I think this thing will make an awesome bracket car. Because the power progression is so evened out and smooth, I can see extremely consistent times with this car.
Thanks for the post...
10-24-2006, 09:35 PM
#28
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RE: Xcharger Driving Impressions
ORIGINAL: v6VenoM
hey afixer I see you guys have that running horse emblem on the grille, with the center lights...i have that grille and I actually bought a grille emblem but cant seem to get it to latch on..which emblem did u buy and how did u get it on there? any help is appreciated. thanks
hey afixer I see you guys have that running horse emblem on the grille, with the center lights...i have that grille and I actually bought a grille emblem but cant seem to get it to latch on..which emblem did u buy and how did u get it on there? any help is appreciated. thanks
ORIGINAL: afixer
here is the group buy
here is the group buy
https://mustangforums.com/m_1929768/tm.htm
