Krazer

Rygen I was using Buckmans because his is an auto and bscotti's is an auto for a comparison (auto to auto)but you know what I forgot about E-13 with his manual so I used fazm data.

The comparison in my first post is just to look at parasite lossif you look at the numbers/ datataking into consideration the turbo is more efficient & very lowparasite loss compared to s/c’s per gas driven and looking at the numbers above the parasite HP loss does not look to be high on the MP90 for a supercharger as stated by the quote from the MP website.

You know I am not sure if I am clearhow I am trying to explain to look at the data and analyze it aboveand draw a comparison, you guys know what I am trying to point out in the data and how to look at it to figure out the parasite loss to get roughly an ideal?

fazm

im not sure if the headers will help the x like it did with the turbo.

cats will make a difference for sure

but water/meth injection helps a lot, cooler IAT's then the intercooled turbo. so its still not exactly comparing apples to apples

its really hard to compare the two.... wait until someone gets a nonintercooled turbo setup at 6/7psi and compare that to the xcharger, numbers might be very close

Buckman

I am on a very conservative tune at this point in time. The 309rwhp/355rwtq is also on a Mustang Dyno, so add 10% to those to get Dynojet numbers. I still need to add the JBA shorty headers to tweak the numbers a bit. I won't add any more hp until I can get to the point where I build the motor up, then I will turn up the hp/tq.

Krazer

Ok guys I am not comparing the turbo to the X Charger on gross rwhp , the turbo is more efficient (and makes more power) so I am looking with this in mind at the turbo’s numbers gross rwhp and comparing to the X now with the turbo being more efficient and looking at the numbers the X numbers indicate low parasite HP loss to me as the MP website states.

This is the only thing I am looking at and comparing and drawing my conclusion on these two systems in this thread.

Some of the post I read sound like some you guys think I am comparing rwhp vs rwhp that not it I am using the data to look at parasite loss.

So to me I have agree with the MP quote that the MP90 exhibts low loss.

fazm

id say low as in 30

Krazer

Ok well that helps me so your thinking 30hp ok not bad thanks for your input on this!

ThisBlood147

Jeez. Off topic for a bit here...........how much do some of you turbo guys have invested in your cars (styling mods not included)?

fazm

purely performance parts?
probably 7k or so, and $309 total labor costs

8cd03gro

thats actually surprisingly low coming from you....you had what, 2k worth of bolt ons or more?

fazm

truetrac $382
frpp 3.73s $0
install $309
bmr rad support $160
mt et streets $324 shipped and mounted
CHE lca's $119
CHE uca $89
CHE driveshaft $519
hurst shifter $138
K&N intake $204
C&L intake $0
sct2 $379
PHP pulley $100
Hpipe $100
Midpipe w/ clamps and hangers $120
Flowmaster at's $265
almost 3k in bolt ons lol

so ya i guess more than 7k