Is it worth tuning WITHOUT adding cold air intake?
01-28-2008, 09:55 PM
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RE: Is it worth tuning WITHOUT adding cold air intake?
I ordered TUNE without CAI; So, I asked Justin about CAI and below is his answer.
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[/align]hi, you don't need cai, but it will help power.
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LMFAO!!!!
gotta love customer service
01-28-2008, 10:51 PM
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RE: Is it worth tuning WITHOUT adding cold air intake?
i think if you have an auto you should definitely get a tune regardless of whether you are getting a CAI or not. A tune will add a noticeable difference in performance as well as throttle response.
01-28-2008, 11:34 PM
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RE: Is it worth tuning WITHOUT adding cold air intake?
ORIGINAL: FyouGitive
My research on a V6 auto, K&N drop-in filter, FRPP M-5230-GTA single axle-back shows:
b@m@chips torque and performance 91 octane tunes were good for a bit more than half a second
ET and a couple-three MPH at the eighth-mile drags.
The big improvement, if you don't bother to go to the track, is in driveability:
everything responds quicker, sensation of "power" is improved markedly.
MPG is about the same over the road, but lower overall because using the gas pedal is so much more rewarding.
If you want to learn about K&N and other air filters, there is a thread on Usenet Group
rec.autos.makers.ford.mustang where an authoritative-sounding person cites research articles that say it's likely not worth it.
As to the first question: definitely worth the tune, CAI or not. Look at bamachips dyno graph: I bet thhere isn't a nickle's worth of difference between the "middle" condition (tune, no CAI) and a K&N filter.
Here's mine:
Do you think the difference between 87 and 91 octane would account for the fact that mine (91 oct performance tunewith no CAI) is as good or better than the 87 wit CAI?
My research on a V6 auto, K&N drop-in filter, FRPP M-5230-GTA single axle-back shows:
b@m@chips torque and performance 91 octane tunes were good for a bit more than half a second
ET and a couple-three MPH at the eighth-mile drags.
The big improvement, if you don't bother to go to the track, is in driveability:
everything responds quicker, sensation of "power" is improved markedly.
MPG is about the same over the road, but lower overall because using the gas pedal is so much more rewarding.
If you want to learn about K&N and other air filters, there is a thread on Usenet Group
rec.autos.makers.ford.mustang where an authoritative-sounding person cites research articles that say it's likely not worth it.
As to the first question: definitely worth the tune, CAI or not. Look at bamachips dyno graph: I bet thhere isn't a nickle's worth of difference between the "middle" condition (tune, no CAI) and a K&N filter.
Here's mine:
Do you think the difference between 87 and 91 octane would account for the fact that mine (91 oct performance tunewith no CAI) is as good or better than the 87 wit CAI?
01-28-2008, 11:46 PM
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RE: Is it worth tuning WITHOUT adding cold air intake?
ORIGINAL: hataap
i think if you have an auto you should definitely get a tune regardless of whether you are getting a CAI or not. A tune will add a noticeable difference in performance as well as throttle response.
i think if you have an auto you should definitely get a tune regardless of whether you are getting a CAI or not. A tune will add a noticeable difference in performance as well as throttle response.
01-29-2008, 12:14 AM
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RE: Is it worth tuning WITHOUT adding cold air intake?
I DID THE BAMA CHIP WITH THE C&L INTAKE ON MY 08 AUTO AND ITS A TOTAL DIIFERENT CAR. THE RACE TUNE ON 91 IS THE ****. U SHOULD DO IT. THE INTAKE IS A MUST AND ON MY CAR IT WHISTLES WHICH SOUNDS PRETTY AWESOME. ITHOUGHT I HAD THE PIC OF THE INTAKE IN MY CAR BUT COULDNT FIND IT.
01-29-2008, 12:36 AM
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RE: Is it worth tuning WITHOUT adding cold air intake?
ORIGINAL: hataap
i think if you have an auto you should definitely get a tune regardless of whether you are getting a CAI or not. A tune will add a noticeable difference in performance as well as throttle response.
i think if you have an auto you should definitely get a tune regardless of whether you are getting a CAI or not. A tune will add a noticeable difference in performance as well as throttle response.
01-29-2008, 01:25 AM
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RE: Is it worth tuning WITHOUT adding cold air intake?
ORIGINAL: tientran
That is all I need for my daily drive. That is why I order TUNE without CAI. Moreover, maybe I am wrong, I think that stock filter is more effective than re-usedable filter that goes with CAI.
ORIGINAL: hataap
i think if you have an auto you should definitely get a tune regardless of whether you are getting a CAI or not. A tune will add a noticeable difference in performance as well as throttle response.
i think if you have an auto you should definitely get a tune regardless of whether you are getting a CAI or not. A tune will add a noticeable difference in performance as well as throttle response.
01-29-2008, 08:20 AM
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RE: Is it worth tuning WITHOUT adding cold air intake?
ORIGINAL: Pony_car
Pretty straightforward question: Is it worth tuning engine without adding CAI? .
Pretty straightforward question: Is it worth tuning engine without adding CAI? .
If that is the only thing you will consider doing; ABSOLUTELY. Of course as many have stated, a CAI/Tune combo is the way to go. Also, for your sixer, slap on an axle back even if it's a $50 GT take off; there is torque, HP and increased mpg waiting to be unleashed by getting rid of that V6 muffler.
cheers
01-29-2008, 09:04 AM
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RE: Is it worth tuning WITHOUT adding cold air intake?
I think that stock filters can block very tiny dust particles and CAI filters let them go through. Maybe I am wrong. I just think that and I have no experience about it.
ORIGINAL: hataap
more effective in what sense?
ORIGINAL: tientran
That is all I need for my daily drive. That is why I order TUNE without CAI. Moreover, maybe I am wrong, I think that stock filter is more effective than re-usedable filter that goes with CAI.
ORIGINAL: hataap
i think if you have an auto you should definitely get a tune regardless of whether you are getting a CAI or not. A tune will add a noticeable difference in performance as well as throttle response.
i think if you have an auto you should definitely get a tune regardless of whether you are getting a CAI or not. A tune will add a noticeable difference in performance as well as throttle response.