Notices
V6 S197 General Discussion This section is for technical discussions pertaining specifically to the V6 variation of the 2005 and newer Ford Mustang.

Gears installed

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 01-01-2009, 07:00 PM
  #1  
DAVEAUSTIN
Thread Starter
 
DAVEAUSTIN's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: FL
Posts: 49
Default Gears installed

Hey Guys:
I am thinking about getting 3.73 gears installed...I wanted to know what's involved in changing them AND how much will that roughly cost to have someone install them.

Thanks.
DAVEAUSTIN is offline  
Old 01-01-2009, 07:21 PM
  #2  
Devil Wolf
3rd Gear Member
 
Devil Wolf's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: IL
Posts: 777
Default

i dont know how to correctly set up a gear without having it whine so i cant help you with your first question, but i had mine done for 225 in labor for a t-lok and a gear set up.

the differential has to come out anyway for new gears, so doing a t-lok at the same time will save you money in the long run and the hassle of setting up a used gear later when you want to get rid of the one wheel peel.
Devil Wolf is offline  
Old 01-04-2009, 03:12 PM
  #3  
shanec
4th Gear Member
 
shanec's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Mississippi
Posts: 1,679
Default

Originally Posted by Devil Wolf
i dont know how to correctly set up a gear without having it whine so i cant help you with your first question, but i had mine done for 225 in labor for a t-lok and a gear set up.

the differential has to come out anyway for new gears, so doing a t-lok at the same time will save you money in the long run and the hassle of setting up a used gear later when you want to get rid of the one wheel peel.
That's a little bit over my head. What do you mean by this?
shanec is offline  
Old 01-04-2009, 03:33 PM
  #4  
Devil Wolf
3rd Gear Member
 
Devil Wolf's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: IL
Posts: 777
Default

stock 7.5 has an open differential; power is only going to one wheel. the rear is set up in three parts: the differential, the ring, and the pinion. pic:



ring is on the left, seated on the differential. the pinion is behind the differential on the bottom of the assembly lined up with the ring gear.

everything comes out to do a gear install, might as well upgrade to a posi or t-lok (power to both wheels) while youre doing gears. if you do it later, its the same effort and cost and the gears have to be set up again, but this time used, which has the potential for gear whine because no one will be able to set them up EXACTLY how they were before.


GTs dont have this issue, the 8.8 has a posi rear end from the factory.
Devil Wolf is offline  
Old 01-04-2009, 03:36 PM
  #5  
Silver Vert 06
2nd Gear Member
 
Silver Vert 06's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location:
Posts: 197
Default

Originally Posted by shanec
That's a little bit over my head. What do you mean by this?
The v6 cars came stock with an open differential. That means only one wheel puts power to the ground. When installing after market gears its a good idea to have a t-lok (limited slip differential) installed. New gears will make traction worse with an open differential. You may as well have both done at the same time because the cost of labor would be the same since the entire rearend will be apart.
Silver Vert 06 is offline  
Old 01-04-2009, 04:12 PM
  #6  
DAVEAUSTIN
Thread Starter
 
DAVEAUSTIN's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: FL
Posts: 49
Default

Thanks for all the replys... Does anyone know about how much in Labor it will cost? Is this a 1, 2 or 3, etc hour job?
DAVEAUSTIN is offline  
Old 01-04-2009, 04:25 PM
  #7  
Devil Wolf
3rd Gear Member
 
Devil Wolf's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: IL
Posts: 777
Default

depends how long it takes him to set up the gear properly. make sure you are going to someone with experience! anyone can set them up in a few hours, but it takes skill to set them up correctly and without whine! i had a guy spend 10 hours with my 4.10s and he still couldnt do it correctly. on the flip side, took another speed shop 2.5 hours to set up a silent 3.73 gear.

quotes should range from 200-400 for labor. a good shop should be able to get it done in 2-3 hours in real time, most shops like to quote for 4.

also, they should be silent as you drive away, whine from improperly set gears will only get worse, a lot of shops like to tell you it will go away as they wear in; this is not true so be careful.
Devil Wolf is offline  
Old 01-04-2009, 05:44 PM
  #8  
illin
3rd Gear Member
 
illin's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Land of Lincoln
Posts: 707
Default

Just FYI, it is about the same cost to just buy a takeoff 8.8 rear and have a better setup all around. Yo get the gears you like, tlok, a stronger rear and a factory install. You are looking at less than $1000 installed.

You are going to to spend around $700-800 to buy the parts and have them installed...and there is always a chance you will have rear end whine. The 8.8 takeoff is a sure bet.
illin is offline  
Old 01-04-2009, 06:06 PM
  #9  
Devil Wolf
3rd Gear Member
 
Devil Wolf's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: IL
Posts: 777
Default

just to play devils advocate, it cost me less than 600 bucks to get my gears+t-lok+labor...thats quite a bit cheaper than the 8.8. and if you dont have a forced induction setup or are not a track junkie, i wouldnt want the extra weight of the larger and heavier rear.

remember too, if youre getting a take off with 3.73s or 4.10, all of those are NOT from the factory, someone took out the stock gear and set up the new one! buying a takeoff has the same risk for whine as a normal install does.


it is a lot easier to bolt up the 8.8 rear than do a gear install. the 8.8 swap is something you may be able to do yourself.
Devil Wolf is offline  
Old 01-05-2009, 10:56 AM
  #10  
Dwisforme05
5th Gear Member
 
Dwisforme05's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Rome,GA
Posts: 2,286
Default

if your going with a 4.10 gear, you are going to have whine. its a very tight gear. i had some installed the other day and mine whine but i dont mind. also if you get motives they tend to whine more the FRPP because of the way they are cut.
Dwisforme05 is offline  


Quick Reply: Gears installed



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 02:15 PM.