Makes me want a GT haha
03-20-2011, 07:11 PM
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Not sure about how much a Forged 4.0 can do on boost, but I wouldn't go shopping for a GT just yet.. for the price of a new car, you could easily build up you sixxer to put many of the newer cars to shame. A built motor/supercharger, GT rear end, would do wonders..
just saying.
just saying.
03-20-2011, 10:49 PM
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Not sure about how much a Forged 4.0 can do on boost, but I wouldn't go shopping for a GT just yet.. for the price of a new car, you could easily build up you sixxer to put many of the newer cars to shame. A built motor/supercharger, GT rear end, would do wonders..
just saying.
just saying.
03-21-2011, 01:00 PM
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they are forged but not up to spec with aftermarket forged rods.
03-21-2011, 04:07 PM
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Vortech comes on around 2700-3000 so its not much different... Fastest X Charger w/o any nitrous is Jim's 12.6....? Plus you have to break down the cost difference. $6000 w/ intercooler? Not trying to start a war just stating facts as to why the xcharger wouldn't "need" supporting mods.
If you plan on drag racing you will need supporting mods no matter what system you install. Either system can be installed on a bone stock car and work just fine if you don't mind one wheel peel. LOL
What I would really like to see is some longevity numbers. There are many X-Charges out there running well over 100,000 miles now. How about some numbers on the Vortech guys?
Sorry guys i just can't stop! LOL
03-21-2011, 07:21 PM
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Also just stating facts about real world horsepower and torque that you misstated about the X-Charger. 1000RPM is a significant difference! The torque curve on the X-Charger is very flat as compared too the Vortech. Seems to me that there have been a few grudge races between the two and it can go either way. Probably mostly has to do with driver ability.
If you plan on drag racing you will need supporting mods no matter what system you install. Either system can be installed on a bone stock car and work just fine if you don't mind one wheel peel. LOL
What I would really like to see is some longevity numbers. There are many X-Charges out there running well over 100,000 miles now. How about some numbers on the Vortech guys?
Sorry guys i just can't stop! LOL
If you plan on drag racing you will need supporting mods no matter what system you install. Either system can be installed on a bone stock car and work just fine if you don't mind one wheel peel. LOL
What I would really like to see is some longevity numbers. There are many X-Charges out there running well over 100,000 miles now. How about some numbers on the Vortech guys?
Sorry guys i just can't stop! LOL
03-21-2011, 07:47 PM
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The reason I ask is early on when the X-Charger was still in development the Turbo and Centrifugal crowd were really down on the X-Charger stating it was going to be very hard on the engine due to the low end torque of the Roots blower. That has now been proven to be totally wrong information over the years and there are a lot more high mileage X-Chargers running around than both Turbos and Centrifugals combined. Don't get me wrong here. I am not slamming any of the systems. They are all good in there own right. Let's just keep the facts straight is all I ask. As for those always making a cost comparisons. Have you checked out the prices of a roots or twin screw based system for the GT 4.6? They cost as much or usually more than the X-Charger with virtually the same required components. There is a lot more cost involved in manufacturing a Roots system vs. a Centrifugal system. So it really boils down to what type of system fits your budget, needs or likes. There is no wrong or right or better or worse.
03-22-2011, 06:20 AM
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The reason I ask is early on when the X-Charger was still in development the Turbo and Centrifugal crowd were really down on the X-Charger stating it was going to be very hard on the engine due to the low end torque of the Roots blower. That has now been proven to be totally wrong information over the years and there are a lot more high mileage X-Chargers running around than both Turbos and Centrifugals combined. Don't get me wrong here. I am not slamming any of the systems. They are all good in there own right. Let's just keep the facts straight is all I ask. As for those always making a cost comparisons. Have you checked out the prices of a roots or twin screw based system for the GT 4.6? They cost as much or usually more than the X-Charger with virtually the same required components. There is a lot more cost involved in manufacturing a Roots system vs. a Centrifugal system. So it really boils down to what type of system fits your budget, needs or likes. There is no wrong or right or better or worse.