Grinding / Rubbing sound from front end while turning left - MustangForums.com



V6 S197 General Discussion This section is for technical discussions pertaining specifically to the V6 variation of the 2005 and newer Ford Mustang.
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by:

Reply
 
 
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 11-14-2013, 06:20 PM   #1
kc5mhb
2nd Gear Member
Thread Starter
 
kc5mhb's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Louisiana
Posts: 225
Default Grinding / Rubbing sound from front end while turning left

I looked around on here and only found one thread for the older model Mustangs pertaining to noise while turning. So when I'm driving and make a left turn, out of a parking lot or a u-turn, sometimes I hear a sound like the tire rubbing on the inner fender plastic. Since my wheels are stock and my tires are one size over stock, I checked all under the front end and there are no signs of anything rubbing. Took it to a friend who is a mechanic, put it up on a lift and found nothing that would cause that noise. He checked the calipers,pads, slack in the bearings, etc. and the only thing that was a bit worn was a inner tie rod, but even that is not bad enough to change yet. There was some slack in the upper strut bearings but still that would not cause the noise. So my question is: I've noticed my power steering level is below the two lines on the reservoir and I'm thinking that taking left turns with enough lateral force is causing the power steering to suck in air instead of fluid. I should also add that I get the power steering growl left and right at almost fully turned to the steering stops on the control arms. I know you are not supposed to hold it to the stops as it can cause pump damage but I'm thinking that is what I' hearing. I can also feel light vibrations through the steering wheel when it happens.

That's just a guess since that appears to be the only thing I can find. Going to fill it tonight and see but just wanted to throw the question out there to the other V6 owners to see if anyone else has seen this.

Thanks in advance
kc5mhb is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-16-2013, 01:31 PM   #2
2nd Gear Member
 
flyhigh@mach1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: FL
Posts: 184
Default

Let us know!
flyhigh@mach1 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-18-2013, 10:43 AM   #3
kevinmalec
5th Gear Member
 
kevinmalec's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Acworth, GA
Posts: 3,666
Default

I owned a Pontiac Grandam along time ago, and experienced the rubbing sound when turning right. If I recall correctly, the wheel bearings were shot.
kevinmalec is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-28-2013, 11:00 AM   #4
157dB
Cut & Paste Expert
 
157dB's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: NW Arkansas
Posts: 13,322
Default

Rack and Pinion steering does not have an "inner tie rod end".
Just an outer tie rod end on either side for a total of 2.
http://iihs.net/fsm/?dir=128&viewfil...g%20System.pdf

You are not creating enough 'G's to be sucking air at or just below the 'ADD' mark.

One size bigger in relation to the stock 215/65R16?
Bigger taller?
Bigger wider?
What size actually?
XXX/XXR16?

If they were rubbing, they would be rubbing like
the pics show.
btw, those are 275/40-18s on a V6 with slight rub but
who turns lock to lock anyhow? the turning radius is so tight
on these v6 S197s that the ends of the steering travel should
never be reached during normal everyday driving...
Attached Thumbnails
Grinding / Rubbing sound from front end while turning left-18srub.jpg   Grinding / Rubbing sound from front end while turning left-18srub2.jpg   Grinding / Rubbing sound from front end while turning left-18s2.jpg  

Last edited by 157dB; 11-28-2013 at 11:05 AM.
157dB is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-08-2013, 06:59 PM   #5
kc5mhb
2nd Gear Member
Thread Starter
 
kc5mhb's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Louisiana
Posts: 225
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by 157dB View Post
Rack and Pinion steering does not have an "inner tie rod end".
Just an outer tie rod end on either side for a total of 2.
http://iihs.net/fsm/?dir=128&viewfil...g%20System.pdf

You are not creating enough 'G's to be sucking air at or just below the 'ADD' mark.

One size bigger in relation to the stock 215/65R16?
Bigger taller?
Bigger wider?
What size actually?
XXX/XXR16?

If they were rubbing, they would be rubbing like
the pics show.
btw, those are 275/40-18s on a V6 with slight rub but
who turns lock to lock anyhow? the turning radius is so tight
on these v6 S197s that the ends of the steering travel should
never be reached during normal everyday driving...
I'm running Yokohama Avid Envigors 235/60 16 on the stock wheels. Checked on a rack, no evidence of rubbing on either side. Thanks for the pdf link. It looks like Ford changed the rack over the years as they used to have an inner ball inside the rack that was a pain to get to and change. Had one on my '76 but then again that's a 31 year difference. Took the car on a 500 mile trip running around 75 MPH most of the way and have not heard the noise since. Funny thing is I would hear it when I first started driving the car either leaving for work in the morning or leaving to come back home. I'll keep looking as any noise, rattle, squeak and the like bugs the mess out of me.
If I find out what it is, I'll be sure to post it.
kc5mhb is offline   Reply With Quote
 
 
Reply

Related Topics
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Roush Front Bumper or not? svastano 2005-2009 S197 Appearance Section 25 07-16-2016 01:20 PM
Did a few mods this summer... drfister 2005-2014 Mustangs 9 09-04-2015 07:47 AM
Looking for mechanic recommendations Staten Island/New Jersey area mikecaputo Classic Mustangs (Tech) 0 08-22-2015 10:58 AM
Groaning noise coming from rear when turning right 92 5.0stang 5.0L (1979-1995) Mustang 4 08-13-2015 06:46 AM
Strange rear chassis noise on 05 GT under load turning right! Daleford GT S197 General Discussion 0 08-10-2015 08:30 PM


Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 05:04 AM.