True dual exhuast V6 = lose HP & TQ ?
#21
RE: True dual exhuast V6 = lose HP & TQ ?
05redfire take it easy I am getting it I just want to do it right the first time see below (new to V6's)
Derf
I think I am going to go this way, after your input and others dual exhaust with X pipe with max. 2.25 dia outside pipes going back to the mufflers( stock V6 mufflers & derf like you said could always change later)) like a safe way for me to go without losing to much back pressure and I should not lose any HP or TQ at all AND poss according to 05red gain a little this route. ( i know 05red I should go free flow aftermarket can't do it if was a 8 no problem)
On the V6 all the aftermarket mufflers I heard & GT take offs which I tried on my car just don't give me the sound IMO I like no offense to anyone, thats why I am going with V6 stock mufflers for me quieter but I like the sound remember I have a stick.
One last question what is the diff between going with a H pipe and X pipe (than the obivious flow) performance wise and tech wise and I should go with the X pipe insted of the H pipe right?
This has been a good thread cleared up a lot of questions for me and I think I got it and I like to thank all you guys for you input all you guys were great.
Derf
I think I am going to go this way, after your input and others dual exhaust with X pipe with max. 2.25 dia outside pipes going back to the mufflers( stock V6 mufflers & derf like you said could always change later)) like a safe way for me to go without losing to much back pressure and I should not lose any HP or TQ at all AND poss according to 05red gain a little this route. ( i know 05red I should go free flow aftermarket can't do it if was a 8 no problem)
On the V6 all the aftermarket mufflers I heard & GT take offs which I tried on my car just don't give me the sound IMO I like no offense to anyone, thats why I am going with V6 stock mufflers for me quieter but I like the sound remember I have a stick.
One last question what is the diff between going with a H pipe and X pipe (than the obivious flow) performance wise and tech wise and I should go with the X pipe insted of the H pipe right?
This has been a good thread cleared up a lot of questions for me and I think I got it and I like to thank all you guys for you input all you guys were great.
#22
RE: True dual exhuast V6 = lose HP & TQ ?
05red
errgh, It seems that no matter what you hear, you still think that you will loose torque and HP
errgh, It seems that no matter what you hear, you still think that you will loose torque and HP
"The comments about backpressure causing losses in torque and HP on the bottom end are coming from owners of older V6 Mustangs that have dynoed before and after exhaust changes and reported the results. Stock V6 motors have reacted poorly to true duals "
https://mustangforums.com/m_573138/m...ressure/tm.htm
https://mustangforums.com/m_573138/m...ressure/tm.htm
#24
RE: True dual exhuast V6 = lose HP & TQ ?
ORIGINAL: TJ
So my next questions to you guys/derf. Do I have the following right?
I will be keeping my engine stock but want dual exhuast curb appeal (its a Mustang) slightly louder sound.
So going with a Y pipe and another stock V6 muffler on the left side (keeping my engine stock) will not affect my back pressure enought to upset the flow balance no loss of HP or TQ.through the RPM range
X pipe with free flowing mufflers on a stock engine you start to upset the flow on a stock engine.
The H pipe would be even more free flowing.
True dual exhuast with free fow mufflers on a stock engine would lose HP & TQ in low RPM range
So my next questions to you guys/derf. Do I have the following right?
I will be keeping my engine stock but want dual exhuast curb appeal (its a Mustang) slightly louder sound.
So going with a Y pipe and another stock V6 muffler on the left side (keeping my engine stock) will not affect my back pressure enought to upset the flow balance no loss of HP or TQ.through the RPM range
X pipe with free flowing mufflers on a stock engine you start to upset the flow on a stock engine.
The H pipe would be even more free flowing.
True dual exhuast with free fow mufflers on a stock engine would lose HP & TQ in low RPM range
X pipe is more free flowing than a H.
#26
RE: True dual exhuast V6 = lose HP & TQ ?
ORIGINAL: socool9004
So, whats the difference between true duels vs an H pipe...isnt it one in the same in a sence?
So, whats the difference between true duels vs an H pipe...isnt it one in the same in a sence?
#27
RE: True dual exhuast V6 = lose HP & TQ ?
IDK why you would run a "true" dual on a V6. Basically you have 2 GEO Metro's now. You might gain a lil horsepower but you'll lose torque. And what's up with those lil fog lights on the V6? Is that from the factory, or is that some sad attempt to look like a V8. BTW, unless you're worried about insurance, WHY OH WHY!?!? would you get a V6 Pusstang!!!! 210hp lol.
My old 2000 Honda Accord can smoke you V6's all day!! (227hp 211tq, and that's with a 4 speed)
Bottom line, you should prolly get an X pipe, that would solve your back pressure issues. Or just do a single to Y pipe and put some nice tips on and you'll be doing good.
My old 2000 Honda Accord can smoke you V6's all day!! (227hp 211tq, and that's with a 4 speed)
Bottom line, you should prolly get an X pipe, that would solve your back pressure issues. Or just do a single to Y pipe and put some nice tips on and you'll be doing good.
#28
RE: True dual exhuast V6 = lose HP & TQ ?
ORIGINAL: GT05
IDK why you would run a "true" dual on a V6.
IDK why you would run a "true" dual on a V6.
ORIGINAL: GT05
And what's up with those lil fog lights on the V6?
And what's up with those lil fog lights on the V6?
ORIGINAL: GT05
WHY OH WHY!?!? would you get a V6 Pusstang!!!! 210hp lol.
WHY OH WHY!?!? would you get a V6 Pusstang!!!! 210hp lol.
(notice, I'm not saying all Mustang GT owners, just those with the weird superiority complex, most GT owners are wonderful helpful people, but then there are the "others"... why can't we all just get along?)
Besides, it's more fun to play with the V6. Any 'tard can pay someone to make 500HP out of their GT. It takes some skill and patients to do it with the V6 (and make it reliable). The aftermarket is so small, you end up having to do a lot of the custom work yourself.
#29
RE: True dual exhuast V6 = lose HP & TQ ?
i have seen dynos of other cars that had true duals put on (instead of a single) and some of the smaller engined cars did lose a bit of power, not really any significant amount tho, like 2hp