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Old 04-22-2012, 05:35 PM   #1
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Default Hood struts that don't pooch the hood?

So after the whole AM hood strut debacle and finally getting the 10-12 brackets that kinda fit better than the 05-09 brackets, for my 09' I may add, I am still unsatisfied.

The hood struts cause the sides of the hood to pooch and hood shake at 75+ is 100% worse to the point where I drove like a granny on the interstate in a mild headwind today.

Using a little bit of thinking, I came to the conclusion that most hood struts would probably cause this as they put pressure on the hood from the shocks and unless they were to angle downwards when the hood closes, they are always gonna have pressure prying the hood upwards.

So, my question is, does anyone know of a hood kit that will not cause my hood to pooch up at the sides and if you do, and have it installed, could you provide some pics? I will try to get some pics up of my pooching predicament but no telling how well it will show up since it's a black car.
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Old 04-22-2012, 06:08 PM   #2
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I had the roush ones just installed. The car is still at the dealer getting some other work done will be finished mid next week So I will let you know then. I hope we don't have any issues.
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No pooching of my Cervini Cowl hood (LOL) with Steeda Struts
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Old 04-23-2012, 09:06 AM   #4
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No pooching of my Cervini Cowl hood (LOL) with Steeda Struts
I think you'll have issues sooner or later, I've been told by many that hood struts on fiberglass hoods cause it to "bow up" which is what I assume the OP meant by "pooching".

I've got the Cervini's Ram Air hood on my 2010 and have opted to not put struts on it, I had previously installed struts on my stock hood with no issues.
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I bought the CPC Next Generation Kit--absolutely no problems with those.
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Old 04-23-2012, 09:12 AM   #6
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I think you'll have issues sooner or later, I've been told by many that hood struts on fiberglass hoods cause it to "bow up" which is what I assume the OP meant by "pooching".

I've got the Cervini's Ram Air hood on my 2010 and have opted to not put struts on it, I had previously installed struts on my stock hood with no issues.
Well, no issues here (bowing) at all after 2 years..!!
I would think that bowing would be somewhat noticable as soon as hood was closed after install
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I think you'll have issues sooner or later, I've been told by many that hood struts on fiberglass hoods cause it to "bow up" which is what I assume the OP meant by "pooching".

I've got the Cervini's Ram Air hood on my 2010 and have opted to not put struts on it, I had previously installed struts on my stock hood with no issues.
Yup, that is what I mean.

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It's hard to tell from a detailed close-up, but the sides of the hood are raised about .125" and then when I remove the hood struts, the hood sits flush with the fenders.

To be honest, I wouldn't have noticed it but another member on here had said they installing the brackets upside would cause this as well, at the time I did have them upside down since it was the 05-09 brackets, but now even installed correctly they cause the same problem.

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Old 04-23-2012, 09:25 AM   #8
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I know a guy with a Roush that has them with no apparent issues.
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I still have my original factory hood and the struts do bow the hood slightly. Not enough for me to be worried about it though. I may later on down the road buy some Roush struts just for the hell of it.
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Well, no issues here (bowing) at all after 2 years..!!
I would think that bowing would be somewhat noticable as soon as hood was closed after install
You're fortunate then, from everything I've read fiberglass hoods do not play nice with hood struts. I'd even read on Cervini's forums, before they shut them down, where a person used the exact strut called for on their Cervini hood and it caused bowing.

Do a quick Google search to see people who've had issues (http://lmgtfy.com/?q=hood+bowing+from+struts)

I'm not willing to risk my hood for the struts, as much as I like the look it's not worth the potential harm.
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Old 04-24-2012, 01:50 PM   #11
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I have the Cervini Ram Air IV with Billeted vents and bought from Cervini thier own branded hood struts specificly for the fiberglass hoods because the hoods are so heavy that the standard struts won't hold it up. And I have the same bowing effect along the fender line. With a black car it's not always noticable but it looks just like the pictures in one of the previous posts.Don't really know what to do about it. I think Cervini should have added some strength to the outer edge where the strut meets the edge of the hood.
I love the looks of the hood, little to no prep work before painting but know see that tjhe fit along the feneder line has the gap much more opened up that when I installed the hood a year and ahalf ago.
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I have the Cervini Ram Air IV with Billeted vents and bought from Cervini thier own branded hood struts specificly for the fiberglass hoods because the hoods are so heavy that the standard struts won't hold it up. And I have the same bowing effect along the fender line. With a black car it's not always noticable but it looks just like the pictures in one of the previous posts.Don't really know what to do about it. I think Cervini should have added some strength to the outer edge where the strut meets the edge of the hood.
I love the looks of the hood, little to no prep work before painting but know see that tjhe fit along the feneder line has the gap much more opened up that when I installed the hood a year and ahalf ago.
Yup...

I am pretty sure that 100% of hood struts kits are going to cause this on the S197 just due to design. There is no re-inforcement on any of the strut kits that would account for the weakness of such a large hood in the middle. My guess is people just don't notice it, but I bet they would if they removed the struts completely and closed the hood.

I am thinking about just removing my struts as the gap on mine is VERY noticeable.
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so how many have the roush hood strut kit ? and have or have not had problems ?
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I've used Redline hood struts on my Cervinis Concept hood since Sept 2011 and haven't had any bowing. The Redlines are supposed to be progressive so should have little to no stress on the hood when fully retracted. IDK, I'll keep an eye on it.
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so how many have the roush hood strut kit ? and have or have not had problems ?
2007 model here. No hood pouches.
Got the Roush struts. No problem except the plastic
cowl trim needed to be trimmed for the brackets
to be placed on the fenders as pictured in the instructions.
Called Roush and got the run around just like the fiasco
with AM over their hood struts not working properly.
The Roush Hood Struts look 100% identical to the AM
Hood Struts except the Roush ones have the Roush logo
laser cut out of them (backwards as well, I may say).
Not as pictured when I purchased them. The instructions
show pictures of a 2012 mustang which is different than
my 2007 mustang.

Redlines attach so far away from the hood hinge that
the stresses are kept to a minimum.
Unlike the Roush and similar kits that attach the strut
closer to the hood hinge.
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I have Redlines on my hood (Shelby Super Snake hood). No bowing whatsover:

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Saw these on another website...

http://redlinetuning.com/QL-FORD-MUS-05-BOLTIN.html
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Are you sure it's the strut pressure that's bowing the hood? I have the same problem but think it may be due to the strut body hitting the inner fender lips. I used a thin layer of Playdo an found that the struts were in fact hitting the inner fender lips. See pictures below. I've sent pictures to Redline and am awaiting a response. You can see my hood is now high in the center and front.
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So after the whole AM hood strut debacle and finally getting the 10-12 brackets that kinda fit better than the 05-09 brackets, for my 09' I may add, I am still unsatisfied.

The hood struts cause the sides of the hood to pooch and hood shake at 75+ is 100% worse to the point where I drove like a granny on the interstate in a mild headwind today.

Using a little bit of thinking, I came to the conclusion that most hood struts would probably cause this as they put pressure on the hood from the shocks and unless they were to angle downwards when the hood closes, they are always gonna have pressure prying the hood upwards.

So, my question is, does anyone know of a hood kit that will not cause my hood to pooch up at the sides and if you do, and have it installed, could you provide some pics? I will try to get some pics up of my pooching predicament but no telling how well it will show up since it's a black car.
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Could be, I will check it out.
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