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DIY THROTTLE RESPONSE MOD (MUST SEE!)
08-31-2007, 08:08 PM
#241
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RE: DIY THROTTLE RESPONSE MOD (MUST SEE!)
ORIGINAL: bodyputtyless
I understand your position entirely. However, I noticed in your signature that you haven't yet modified your Mustang. What I was trying to point out is that many get caught up ina modification fury that is based on inaccurate information. Having already gone through the pains of bogus modifications, I wouls simply advise everyone to put a lot of research into any and all of their modification purchases. As for this latest "pioneering" leap into S197 technology, I will say once again. If this is real then someone flushed a fortune down the drain. I will be patiently waiting to see if some company manufactures "afetr market throttle pedal assemblies" that remedy the supposed lag. BTW, I went out to my GT and did the same "toe" test on the throttle pedal. My throttle reacted to the slightest touch. Just like the modified one in the video. I could not detect any difference between mine and the on in the video. Again, your opinion was well expressed and made a valid point.
ORIGINAL: nkx1
I definitely understand your skepticism, and I'm a little skeptical too about modifying an integral component of my car for a minimal (imo) benefit. However, without pioneers, there would be little or no advancements in technology, and as with anything, there is a risk/benefit association. Some may not think the benefit is worth the risk, and others will.So to criticize someone for their pioneering efforts, especially when ittheir efforts may work to our benefit, I think iscounter productive. Questioning it is one thing, but to blatently criticize their efforts is another. I'm extremely grateful that people are willing to try this mod and offer their results in this forum. Maybe I'll try this too if I get around to it this weekend.
ORIGINAL: bodyputtyless
If at idle rpm the wire is sitting atop the "hump" at the end of the sweep, then moving the wire so it no longer rests on the hump has to increase the idle rpm. And if the idle rpm is higher, its just like staging at the line and power braking as you wait for the green. The throttle is already in theory moved".
All that keeps running through my head is, if this makes the car respond faster, then why wouldn't Ford do it? It would cost nothing.
Its like when some after market company makes a gizmo that improves gas mileage by 25%. The part costs $29 and it raises your mileage. If it was true why wouldn't the factory install the same component (at a lot less then $29 with bulk purchasing) and be able to claim that "our 300 hp car also gets 27 miles to the gallon! They'd clean up. The answer? Cause the claims are bogus.
I hope that you are really on to something. But I'll wait til others have sacrificed their lives in the name of technology before I start f-ing with my pedal assembly.
If at idle rpm the wire is sitting atop the "hump" at the end of the sweep, then moving the wire so it no longer rests on the hump has to increase the idle rpm. And if the idle rpm is higher, its just like staging at the line and power braking as you wait for the green. The throttle is already in theory moved".
All that keeps running through my head is, if this makes the car respond faster, then why wouldn't Ford do it? It would cost nothing.
Its like when some after market company makes a gizmo that improves gas mileage by 25%. The part costs $29 and it raises your mileage. If it was true why wouldn't the factory install the same component (at a lot less then $29 with bulk purchasing) and be able to claim that "our 300 hp car also gets 27 miles to the gallon! They'd clean up. The answer? Cause the claims are bogus.
I hope that you are really on to something. But I'll wait til others have sacrificed their lives in the name of technology before I start f-ing with my pedal assembly.
I doubt we're going to see an aftermarket mod for the reason I described above. Further, I adjusted the accel cable in my previous sn95 with a piece of plastic to significantly reduce the accel travel at the top (same as what we're talking about here). A lot of the sn95 guys were doing it and I don't believe anyone marketed a mod for it.
My s197 had about like ~1/2" travel in my accelerator (maybe not quite that much) but the top portion of the travel was unresponsive. Not that big of a deal. Performing Tube's mod removed that unresponsive area. During my small test drive I found no adverse driveability - other than the pedal is now immediate. I have not yet gone WOT with it due to it's starting to rain a little and I'm SC'd so I don't know if I'll reach WOT sooner in the pedal than before the mod.
08-31-2007, 08:19 PM
#244
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RE: DIY THROTTLE RESPONSE MOD (MUST SEE!)
ORIGINAL: acrokat
I took Delila on a test drive. I put her in WOT and didn't notice any adverse drivability issues. Granted I was only at WOT for a second or two...
I took Delila on a test drive. I put her in WOT and didn't notice any adverse drivability issues. Granted I was only at WOT for a second or two...
08-31-2007, 08:21 PM
#245
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RE: DIY THROTTLE RESPONSE MOD (MUST SEE!)
Yes. I got rid of about 90% of my slop. I can only push the pedal down maybe 1/8th of an inch before I get a response from Delila. Thats enough thatI can rest my foot on the pedal and get a couple hundred RPM increase easily.
08-31-2007, 08:26 PM
#246
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RE: DIY THROTTLE RESPONSE MOD (MUST SEE!)
ORIGINAL: richmod
I know how I'm spending my labor day weekend - installing my JLT CAI/B ama tunes and doing the Tube Mod. Life is good!
I know how I'm spending my labor day weekend - installing my JLT CAI/B ama tunes and doing the Tube Mod. Life is good!
08-31-2007, 08:36 PM
#248
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RE: DIY THROTTLE RESPONSE MOD (MUST SEE!)
ORIGINAL: 157db
Lets see. Bend wipers. No thanks.
Install a new travel stop so the relaxed
travel is a few mm less. Hmmmmmm
Sounds like a better way instead of
bending wipers. Soon the carbon will
be worn away from too much pressure
from misbent wipers. Forget the lag,
how about the new dead spots and
undesired quirky response from missing
resistance material?
Put a travel stop on mine and now its
fully micro adjustable with no bending
of wipers. Hows that for a modified mod?
Lets see. Bend wipers. No thanks.
Install a new travel stop so the relaxed
travel is a few mm less. Hmmmmmm
Sounds like a better way instead of
bending wipers. Soon the carbon will
be worn away from too much pressure
from misbent wipers. Forget the lag,
how about the new dead spots and
undesired quirky response from missing
resistance material?
Put a travel stop on mine and now its
fully micro adjustable with no bending
of wipers. Hows that for a modified mod?
08-31-2007, 08:45 PM
#249
3rd Gear Member
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Texas
Posts: 977
RE: DIY THROTTLE RESPONSE MOD (MUST SEE!)
haha ppl get so testy.......well anyhow......remember how i said that my casing had to be taken off with the "T10".....well upon further inspection on the inside i have a "Rev 4" ......but i have the gap in throttle response like every one else....so i straightened the angle on the needles and changed the overall angle about 2 mm to be steeper......well i noticed that just before i closed the box i could feel that the needles were connecting with the gold surface bc i could feel a slight pressure pushing up on the casing....well i put the throttle bracket back on and started er up...and there was actually a bit more throttle lag than i had previously had.....so i went back to the drawing board and cut back on the angle.....and now its about the same gap as earlier maybe a LITTLE shorter....but i can now rev 100rpms now instead of the normal delay and shooting above 1k rpms......so its a bit more sensitive now i would say.......but i had time on my hands so i thought i'd check it out.....all is well!...so on a 1-5 scale id give it about a 3.8