Love the Ecoboost - Wish it were in the Mustang!
02-06-2011, 06:00 PM
#41
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Hi Guys,
I know the Mustang "purists" want a V8. I understand and do not take issue with that. But if Ford put this Ecoboost into the Mustang, put a 6 speed manual behind it, installed AWD and indipendant rear suspension, cranked the boost to 15 or so, it would absolutely toast most anything on the road. Going strait or on a road coarse.
Now, how about an Ecoboost version of the 5.0 liter!?!?!? That would be absolutely crazy!
I know the Mustang "purists" want a V8. I understand and do not take issue with that. But if Ford put this Ecoboost into the Mustang, put a 6 speed manual behind it, installed AWD and indipendant rear suspension, cranked the boost to 15 or so, it would absolutely toast most anything on the road. Going strait or on a road coarse.
Now, how about an Ecoboost version of the 5.0 liter!?!?!? That would be absolutely crazy!
Now those are both interesting applications but, don't retain the pony/muscle car characteristics. Those applications would make a nice SVT project.
Diabolical....what's your issue with Jeremy Clarkson?? He's da man in the UK!!
02-06-2011, 06:14 PM
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I'm not in the UK. I've watched him test drive a V6, complain about the hp and handling and claim it was a GT. I've heard him claim that a GT500 is a 4.6 liter GT with a supercharger strapped to it. I've heard him claim that a Roush S197 comes stock with IRS. I've seen several episodes where he reviews the S197, mercilessly bashes it while calling all Americans fat and lazy, all the while getting all of the facts wrong. I guess you could say I'm a little butt-hurt about it, lol, but honestly, if he gets that much info wrong about ONE car, I'm sure I'm not learning anything valuable from him when he reviews other cars. Top Gear is entertainment, but you'll never learn anything of value watching it.
02-06-2011, 06:26 PM
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Ok now I understand.....It's European TV and yea he does bash most American cars but, Europeans focus more on handling/build quality/technology and engine performance to match the other characteristics. American cars tend to be lots of straight line HP without much else. When watching T.G. UK were watching European way of thinking which at times conflicts with American view points. No big deal to me....I enjoy their entertainment style.
I also noticed that they are not fond of the mustang. There is commercialism at play. Jeremy once despised the Vette....now loves the Vette and highly endorses it. As with everything in the end it's a paycheck. I look past the BS and enjoy their witty humor.
I also noticed that they are not fond of the mustang. There is commercialism at play. Jeremy once despised the Vette....now loves the Vette and highly endorses it. As with everything in the end it's a paycheck. I look past the BS and enjoy their witty humor.
02-06-2011, 07:36 PM
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Unless they shaved a few inches off of it, redesigned the exterior to be less bulky, turned it into a 2 seater, gave it smaller wheels/tires, a lighter 1.6l 4 cyl engine, and sold it as a Toyota.
02-06-2011, 10:08 PM
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I also spent time over the years with Evo's, WRX-STI's, Turbo Supra's,Turbo RX7's(94!!!!Bad ****) and other turbo cars....they just don't have the durability of a V8. When owning turbo cars we will become very familiar with head gaskets, heads and valves and cracking induction manifolds in half. We will be crossing our fingers for good luck every time we drive aggressively.
For the turbo part, I have to agree. The turbine/compressor wheels turn very very fast, well over 10K RPM even though the engine crank is only turning 3K RPM.
And in high boost applications where the engine is turning at redline, the turbine and compressor wheels could be turning in excess of 20K, maybe even 30K to feed the hungry engine.
As such, the very high speed moving part will definitely not last the decades a naturally aspirated engine will.
And in high boost applications where the engine is turning at redline, the turbine and compressor wheels could be turning in excess of 20K, maybe even 30K to feed the hungry engine.
As such, the very high speed moving part will definitely not last the decades a naturally aspirated engine will.
02-06-2011, 10:17 PM
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The only thing I can think of is you had some horrible tuners. I can't speak for EVO's in particular, but saying the STi and Supra lack in durability is just really confounding to me. The Supra in particular has one of the most over-built bottom ends of any production car to date..RX7's are only unreliable if you (as I mentioned above) have a really horrible tuner.
I'm not sure where you've been getting your information, but most turbochargers spin more in the realm of 90-140k RPM.
I'm not sure where you've been getting your information, but most turbochargers spin more in the realm of 90-140k RPM.