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Old 08-13-2014, 07:09 PM   #1
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I know the next mod will simply have to be a CAI and tune. So with that in mind, a few questions-

Any recommendations on the intake? I am leaning towards Steeda right now.

Any recommendations on who to get the tunes from? I am torn between BAMA and Brenspeed.

Thoughts and input always welcomed. I know that with the 09's there was no way to declare any CAI requiring a tune "Better." That said I wonder which tuner is safer? I was looking for a FRPP CAI but didn't see one except for the Cobra Jet... a FRPP CAI for the base 5.0 isn't in the works is it?
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I love my Steeda CAI I would recommend it then a nice STC tuner would work great with it. I have a BAMA tune and it works great, however I do plan on having it dyno tuned just to dial everything in better. But Bama should be great to get everything up and running.
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Old 08-13-2014, 07:27 PM   #3
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I have a JLT on my 05, I like it. As far as tune, I recommend a dyno tune, my mail order ones all ran too lean once I got them on the dyno.
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I have a Steeda CAI and a Hypermotive Tune. Unless you plan on modding it heavily, you won't need a dyno tune. A dyno tune may squeeze a few extra ponies out of it...but not for the price you will pay for the tune/dyno. Just my opinion.

I have had Brenspeed, Bama, Bamachips (before it went to AM), and Hypermotive. Hypermotive is by far the best. Drives near stock, not jerky like the Bama. Bama could never get my tune right. Hypermotive gets me 27-28mpg and their customer service blows all of these out of the water.

If you are worried about the warranty, go with Fords Procal...but don't expect power gains like the others.
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Old 08-13-2014, 07:47 PM   #5
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Correct me if I am wrong but if you were to reflash it to stock and reinstall the factory intake and drive it long enough for the computer to reset can't dealerships not tell any aftermarket intake was ever installed?
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I would think so yeah because once you reflash it, its stock... but if you had other mods that needed tuning to work right that is where the stock tune would **** some **** up..... Most dealerships are not going to fuss over a CAI and a tune.....
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From my understanding...the new 5.0's can tell how many times you have flashed the PCM. Doesn't matter how many miles you drive it after you re-flash it. If something happens, and you need a new block...a Ford engineer will know that it has been tuned...and could...could deny warranty.

That being said...I have modded the **** out of my car.
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The CAI is almost a complete waste of money for 99% of Mustang owners, especially with your year model.

Save your money, skip the CAI, get the tuner and put the saved money towards something worthwhile.
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Old 08-13-2014, 09:56 PM   #9
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CAI on the 2011+ 5.0 adds nothing. The car already has a CAI. It's all in the tune with these cars now. The stock air box exceeds the needs of the engine..and is the same one used on the air-hungry BOSS. Save the cash for something else.
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Gents,
I know the next mod will simply have to be a CAI and tune. So with that in mind, a few questions-
Any recommendations on the intake? I am leaning towards Steeda right now.
Any recommendations on who to get the tunes from? I am torn between BAMA and Brenspeed.
Thoughts and input always welcomed. I know that with the 09's there was no way to declare any CAI requiring a tune "Better." That said I wonder which tuner is safer? I was looking for a FRPP CAI but didn't see one except for the Cobra Jet... a FRPP CAI for the base 5.0 isn't in the works is it?
Hey Stags-

There's a lot of great tuners out there and I'm sure we can all deliver you a great tune. There's a lot of back and forth in regards to Ford's factory box as well, which while it's pretty effective it's an eyesore in my opinion and there's still extra power to be made. Being said Here's the basics on how we have our tunes set up!

For every Bama Tune we ask you 19 questions about your specific Mustang, including your unique mods and style of driving. This info helps us write custom tunes from the ground-up for your Mustang's mods that will give you the most horsepower that we can safely deliver. We're also constantly developing our tunes. Between our many different Project Mustangs and tons of street/track and dyno testing (on our in-house Dynojet 224xLC), we're looking for any minor tweaks to be made that can benefit you guys. We're also part of Fords Technology Transfer Program & Work very closely with Ford to insure that all of our tunes are perfect.

Another great benefit to ordering with us is our Free Tunes For Life program. Any time you get a new modification or want some changes to your file, just hit up the Bama team and will get you a revised file sent out immediately!

I hope this helps! Let me know if you have any questions or feel free to shoot Bama a call at 888.226.9764 and they're there to help!

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Gents,

I know the next mod will simply have to be a CAI and tune. So with that in mind, a few questions-

Any recommendations on the intake? I am leaning towards Steeda right now.

Any recommendations on who to get the tunes from? I am torn between BAMA and Brenspeed.

Thoughts and input always welcomed. I know that with the 09's there was no way to declare any CAI requiring a tune "Better." That said I wonder which tuner is safer? I was looking for a FRPP CAI but didn't see one except for the Cobra Jet... a FRPP CAI for the base 5.0 isn't in the works is it?
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You are looking at a great intake with the Steeda unit. Ours is very popular among the consumers & the Power Pak (CAI & Tuner is a great deal). http://www.steeda.com/steeda-manual-...pack-555-3935/

Yes, the factory intake on these cars are great ... with just the CAI alone ... we have seen 9 to 12 horsepower over the stock airbox, mostly above 4,000rpm.

With the combined tuned & 93 octane ... you can see very impressive gains in both HP & Torque.

Our tunes are very safe ... we have had 0 issues to date with engine failures or warranty claims with our tune. Our tunes are not most powerful ... but if you are looking for safe, reliable & powerful ... then look no further than Steeda.

Also, the same tunes we write for you, the consumer, are the same tunes we write for our serialized performance Mustangs that are sold at select Ford dealerships nationwide.

If you are interested. You can shoot me an email at tim@steeda.com to discuss further.

Your making a great choice by looking towards Steeda for your performance needs ... don't take my word for it ... do some searches & I will let the other members weigh in as well.

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I went with JLT CAI + BAMA tunes for life. If you like the Steeda, that is a great option as I think they will all net about the same RWHP. I chose to do the CAI for a few extra ponies and to get rid of the hideous accordion style pipe that the factory box uses. If you ever have the hood popped at car shows or events the aftermarket CAI's look alot cleaner.
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I love my steeda/bama combo
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You know the CAIs are over priced pieces of plastic when multiple vendors appear on the same thread all pushing their snake oil.

The car comes WITH a CAI yet people think they need to buy an aftermarket "cold" air intake that actually pulls hot air, not cold air. Buying an aftermarket hot air intake is pointless unless you by a throttle body with a larger opening. Keeping the stock TB but buying a bigger air intake pipe doesn't make sense.

These vendors make great products - why don't you buy something useful from them instead of throwing money down the drain? I say again, skip aftermarket CAI and just go with the tuner.
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I'll entertain the alternative propositions.

What would be a better use of coin than a CAI as far as bolt on NA HP? I feel like the tune would be a good bet just for improved throttle response.

I will say I find the stock suspension lacking. The amount of dive at break and nose up at hard throttle is annoying. And body roll. I would probs go with Steeda Sports, Koni Yellows, and Strano's sway bars for starters. Are control arms still a good investment on 14s?

A short throw is on my build list at some point- is MGW still the crem de la crem in 14s?

What does the forum think about a full NA revamp? IE Boss manifold (Will that fit under the factory strut tower brace or no?), 90mm TB (FRPP or BBK?), and CAI + Tune? Potentially supported with LT headers and a catted X pipe.

I was pretty well versed on the 09's but this 14 is a completely different car so I am looking to learn as much as I can. Right now my Mustang is a beast amongst cars but I want her to be a beast amongst Mustangs too.
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There were tests on the 05-09s that showed a handful of extra ponies out of the aftermarket units. Ford resolved those issues with 2010+ I have not seen any sort of hard data to show that aftermarket CAIs have any benefit for n/a Mustangs. *Note* A Tuner does produce results and should be purchased...just not with the snake oil intake. Ford has said time and time again that the stock box is as good as it gets.

Even *if* an aftermarket CAI gave you 3 extra hp...is that really worth paying $300+ for a piece of hollow plastic? Of course not. Get your shifter or work on that suspension you aren't happy with. You'll get results you can see with those upgrades.

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You are going to have people on both sides of the fence on this one.

On this test the car was loaded with a basic tune with no cam timing changes just so we could have a higher rev limiter that way we could rev the engine to the same RPM with both intakes without running into a limiter. Ignition timing was the same for both tunes.

The results show a “peak” gain of only 5 horsepower, but there is a lot more there if you read the dyno sheet. Gains started at about 4,500, with gains of 6 to 9 horsepower between 4,500 and 5,000. Between 5,300 and 6,100 gains were 7 to 10 horsepower. And between 6,700 and 7,200 the gains were an impressive 12 to 15 horsepower. So you can see measureable gains from a cold air intake.

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The OEMs are going to say that the parts they built the car with are the best & why wouldn't they.

Do you think a company would come out & say "We built this car with parts that were good ... but there are better ones out there" ... the answer is no. They are going to stand by there product, as they should.

The truth is ... these cars are built exceptionally well ... but ... there are many improvements that can be done. From the radio, to the exhaust, the tuning & ultimately to the CAI.

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