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Old 11-30-2009, 09:22 AM   #1
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Default Fords new 305 HP V6 for 2011

http://www.autoblog.com/2009/11/30/2...-2009-preview/

Well this is what i get for trying to help Ford out and buy a 2010 GT. I should have waited a year. To me, this article all but cements the fact that the "coyote" V8 is coming. If i had heard of any of this after i got back from Iraq and was looking for a muscle car, I would have waited. Now im going to have to buy a supercharger...
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Old 11-30-2009, 09:37 AM   #2
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Why would you need a supercharger? Will these new motors suddenly make your car slower?
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http://www.autoblog.com/2009/11/30/2...-2009-preview/

Well this is what i get for trying to help Ford out and buy a 2010 GT. I should have waited a year. To me, this article all but cements the fact that the "coyote" V8 is coming. If i had heard of any of this after i got back from Iraq and was looking for a muscle car, I would have waited. Now im going to have to buy a supercharger...

Wow, that sucks for all of us that bought a '10. Go get you that Supercharger, youl love it!
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Old 11-30-2009, 09:57 AM   #4
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Why would you need a supercharger? Will these new motors suddenly make your car slower?
Really? No, not slower then when i bought it, but certainly slower then the V8 that will be arriving...
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I do not understand why anyone would want or "need" any more power than this has stock - unless you are taking it to the track. It is so easy to get to 60 mph + before you know it. Plenty of passing power and fun power and great sound. In real world driving this is more than enough IMO.
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I do not understand why anyone would want or "need" any more power than this has stock - unless you are taking it to the track. It is so easy to get to 60 mph + before you know it. Plenty of passing power and fun power and great sound. In real world driving this is more than enough IMO.
For me its not entirely about that. That fact that I bought a new model and less then 6 months later Ford is making major drive train improvements is lame. And based on "my" personal opinion, this car could use some more oomph. It does accelerate nicely from a stand still, but for me, it could use more power for rolling acceleration.

Bottom line is that im not so pissed about the power and speed, im pissed about major improvements so quickly. Its like early adopter Iphone people having a newer model being sold a couple months later. Its just bad business in my opinion. They should have waited to release the car until it was "complete". To me it now feels like I bought a rushed product.
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Old 11-30-2009, 10:46 AM   #7
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the V6 performmance package sounds cool
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I agree that making major engine changes 1 year after a new model is questionable. But I imagine they have been feeling heat ever since the new Camaro came out to put out comperable HP/TQ #s in the Mustang and this has been in the works for years. They probably did not with the '10 models because of the economy and their own financial situation last year. Now it seems that Ford is on the right path and can afford to make these changes now.

1 thing to consider is the 4.6 has been around forever and you basically have 0 worry about problems. With the new V6 and V8 and transmisisons, who knows about the reliability. And I agree it probably is rushed now and like the early Camaro models; there will be issues.

It seems that new models of everything are coming out right and left, I do not understand but it seems that there are enough people that want the newest and best to support this type of business decision
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if they dont do a 4.6 for 2011 what will this do to our 2010 for mods? Will it affect the availability for 2010 only aftermarket mods? I know stuff is already out, but will they not make as much of it due to a 1yr run? Kinda stinks I guess. I myself wouldn't go run out and get a 2011, but will prob wait for 2012 or 2013 and trade mine in.
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...if they dont do a 4.6 for 2011 what will this do to our 2010 for mods? Will it affect the availability for 2010 only aftermarket mods? I know stuff is already out, but will they not make as much of it due to a 1yr run? Kinda stinks I guess..
Hadn't even thought about this aspect.

I've been trying to look at this from all angles and it seems just positive from about every angle, expect what you are thinking about.
The best part is ford just keeps making it better and better (although it may have taken the competition to kick them in the rear).
Back in the heyday, I'm sure they had engines/body styles that were only available for 1yr, the 2010's should then be considered "sought after 1 year only models".

But damn, now I want to trade my V6 for a 305hp V6, probably can't get it for 17.5K new like the last one...

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Its pretty cool seeing ford step up to plate to match the numbers chevy is putting down. I have a 10' and its an awesome car and i plan on supercharging it in the near future. i'm sure if I bought 2011 5.0 i would do the same thing supercharge it. All in all most of us crave more power than just stock power. So just buy it mod it and love it.

Maybe I can talk my wife in letting me buy her a 2011 GT
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if they dont do a 4.6 for 2011 what will this do to our 2010 for mods? Will it affect the availability for 2010 only aftermarket mods? I know stuff is already out, but will they not make as much of it due to a 1yr run? Kinda stinks I guess. I myself wouldn't go run out and get a 2011, but will prob wait for 2012 or 2013 and trade mine in.
Wouldn't you share most of your drivetrain/suspension aftermarket with the 05-09s and exterior/interior with the 2010+?
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Wouldn't you share most of your drivetrain/suspension aftermarket with the 05-09s and exterior/interior with the 2010+?
correct the 4.6 in the '10 is virtually the same as teh '05 - '09 engine. mods for the '10 will be plentiful and inexpensive very soon
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so it looks like the 5.0 mustang will be true now... question is the power... I guess 400hp will most likely be about right. As much as I love my 2010 kind of stinks for us owners who will only have the best GT mustang for a couple more months. But I guess everything nowadays changes so quickly you only have the best for a couple months before something better comes out.
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correct the 4.6 in the '10 is virtually the same as teh '05 - '09 engine. mods for the '10 will be plentiful and inexpensive very soon
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Matter of fact, the V8 in the '10 is IDENTICAL to the V8's in the 05-09s with the exception of the tune. Other than some of the intakes for the '05-'09s not being an exact fit in a '10, mod away.
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I do not understand why anyone would want or "need" any more power than this has stock - unless you are taking it to the track. It is so easy to get to 60 mph + before you know it. Plenty of passing power and fun power and great sound. In real world driving this is more than enough IMO.

You haven't had your car very long have you? I thought this way when I first got the car and for a few months after. But that changed.

Eventually, you'll get used to your current power level and it won't feel as awesome as it once did. Then you'll want to bump it up some. Get used to that. And so on...

The feeling of accelerating faster and faster is awesome and the problem is, no matter where you are, eventually you'll get used to it and need more to continue this wonderful feeling/experience regardless of the speed limits on the street.

The other issue is speed = money. Lots of it. I don't even like to think of how many more thousands I'd still have it if was not for wanting to mod like a fiend. But, it's worth it really when this is your hobby and makes you happy.

Also, a Prius is more than enough for the street to so that would make a Mustang kind of pointless right?
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This cements the deal for me. Power? Meh? Anyone can go fast in a straight line. The big news is they're adding in or offering as optional all the handling and braking bits from the regular GT, plus some Cobra stuff too.

The engine is all aluminum, so we're talking weight reduction with 300 HP. One engineer on Jalopnik said he expects the new V6 to best the current GT on a road course, and keep the new V8 car within it's sights.

Handling, braking, power with 30 mpg ... I am TOTALLY sold, and patting myself on the back for waiting.
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Now that some of this stuff is becoming official, I'd like to point out how many 2010 buyers will be bothered by the fact that Ford didn't just do this all as one huge refresh. It's a dumb decision if you ask me. I'd be pissed if I had bought a 2010. I know some (like Wilkinda and others) have said they knew it was coming out and didn't care. I don't understand that, but it's cool. It's your opinion and I am happy you are pleased with your purchase. That is what matters. I still think that many uninformed buyers will be upset that they didn't get the whole package.
Bring on the 2011! I wonder what lease options there would be on the 2011 v6. Maybe I can lease one while saving for the 5.0....
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I don't see what the big fuss is about. Sure an extra 100 hp will be an obvious advantage but we've been at a disadvantage of sorts anyway with a 4.6 and we have had fun being a strong underdog! Ford did the body refresh on que with the competition and now the new motors are ready too!
The complaint earlier about poor rolling acceleration is called "not being in the correct gear". If the one you're in isn't picking up and your doing less than 120... drop gears again!
JW for those of you old enough to remember... were people disapointed if they got the mustang the year before the old 5.0 came out?
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