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Old 12-13-2005, 11:40 PM   #1
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Default 325 hp with bolt ons on 99-04 gt

Is it possible to get 325 hp with bolt on's and what parts would you put togeather to get it if so?
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Old 12-13-2005, 11:48 PM   #2
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Is it possible to get 325 hp with bolt on's and what parts would you put togeather to get it if so?
No, it is not possible, rear wheel OR flywheel.

With my below listed mods (every bolton + cams and tune) I am making something around 322 flywheel horsepower, or 280 RWHP. Some people claim to have made/make 280 RWHP with no cams, but I stronly beileve (as do others) that their dynos were screwed up when they did this.

BTW this is for a SOHC 99-04 GT car, not a DOHC car or a 05+ GT.
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Old 12-13-2005, 11:50 PM   #3
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Is it possible to get 325 hp with bolt on's and what parts would you put togeather to get it if so?
No, it is not possible, rear wheel OR flywheel.

With my below listed mods (every bolton + cams and tune) I am making something around 322 flywheel horsepower, or 280 RWHP. Some people claim to have made/make 280 RWHP with no cams, but I stronly beileve (as do others) that their dynos were screwed up when they did this.

BTW this is for a SOHC 99-04 GT car, not a DOHC car or a 05+ GT.


hahaha. the 05 can get right around there with a new intake and SCT and removing that little honey comb thing.

yes, i'm jealious of the 05s great power potential with just simple boltons. [:@]
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Old 12-14-2005, 12:27 AM   #4
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LT headers, o/r xpipe, straight through catback, CAI, throttle body, plenum, u/d pulleys, tune.

You may possibly touch 320-325 at the motor.
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Right around 340RWHP here, but it has been a long and expensive road.
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Is it possible to get 325 hp with bolt on's and what parts would you put togeather to get it if so?
No, it is not possible, rear wheel OR flywheel.

With my below listed mods (every bolton + cams and tune) I am making something around 322 flywheel horsepower, or 280 RWHP. Some people claim to have made/make 280 RWHP with no cams, but I stronly beileve (as do others) that their dynos were screwed up when they did this.

BTW this is for a SOHC 99-04 GT car, not a DOHC car or a 05+ GT.
With 322 flywheel you're pretty darn close and you don't REALLY have every bolt-on. Where's your P-51 intake from Fox-Lake? How about the Mezie electric water pump? You have a manual Rack or still using that power steering? Have you bumped up your timing to near-ping on the highest available octane? You have a light-weight/smaller diameter flywheel?... All I'm saying is that there are still some options available. I think you're dyno results showed you had lean A/F ratio as well so I bet with some tweaking and timing you could get a little more power. For more power to the wheels, you can throw on some ultra light-weight small wheels with thin tread tires, ultra light weight rear brake discs, carbon-fiber driveshaft with aluminum yokes, lightweight clutch and pressure-plate (to go with the new flywheel). Afterthat you can go to dumps and get rid of your cat-back all together. You could remove your filter for the dyno for a couple more hp.... There's always a little more. Plus, how cold was your engine/intake when you dynoed it? Some people ice it down or let it cool off completly so that could explain their numbers.
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Old 12-14-2005, 12:58 AM   #7
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im 286rwhp on a sohc..00' comp cams stage II, comp springs, C&L CAI, upper plenum accufab 75mm T/B, BBK LT Headers, BBK o/r X, maganflows, no cats, 4:10s, ram stage II, ram alluminum flywheel, SCT tune.. i think you could get over 300 at the wheels with some bad *** head pnp... patriot or fox lake..and a p51 intake...shizz easy if you have the $ abd the know how. wait..i take that back, that dyno was before the clutch and flywheel...
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I would go with a Catback of your choice preferably Bassani and a nice mid pipe, Long tubes,Tunner,CAI,Throttle body,pleanum,gears wont give you no horsepower but will give you a nice boost in acceleration. probably be around 310HP just guessing? RWHP mybe 300
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Way off gray ghost. With those mods maybe 260 to the wheels.
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Let me take a stab at it.

P-51 Intake with a Lightning MAF, No Screen and a Huge Filter strapped on to it or no filter for that matter.
Stage II Naturally Aspirated cams and Valve springs to spin to 7k RPMs. A/C removed, Powersteering removed, Electric Water pump, Underdriven Alternator, lightweight billet idler/tensioner pulleys with the lightest, smallest diameter crank pulley that will still spin the alternator at the underdriven speed. L/T headers with dumps at the end. quarter-master button-style clutch assembly, PST carbonfiber driveshaft with aluminum yokes, slotted/drilled rear discs, 12 lb rear wheels, Spool, EGR delete, 75mm TB...
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How will removing A/C, power steering, and installing an aftermarket clutch assembly, driveshaft, brake upgrades or rear wheels give him any horsepower whatsoever?



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Let me take a stab at it.

P-51 Intake with a Lightning MAF, No Screen and a Huge Filter strapped on to it or no filter for that matter.
Stage II Naturally Aspirated cams and Valve springs to spin to 7k RPMs. A/C removed, Powersteering removed, Electric Water pump, Underdriven Alternator, lightweight billet idler/tensioner pulleys with the lightest, smallest diameter crank pulley that will still spin the alternator at the underdriven speed. L/T headers with dumps at the end. quarter-master button-style clutch assembly, PST carbonfiber driveshaft with aluminum yokes, slotted/drilled rear discs, 12 lb rear wheels, Spool, EGR delete, 75mm TB...
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How will removing A/C, power steering, and installing an aftermarket clutch assembly, driveshaft, brake upgrades or rear wheels give him any horsepower whatsoever?



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Let me take a stab at it.

P-51 Intake with a Lightning MAF, No Screen and a Huge Filter strapped on to it or no filter for that matter.
Stage II Naturally Aspirated cams and Valve springs to spin to 7k RPMs. A/C removed, Powersteering removed, Electric Water pump, Underdriven Alternator, lightweight billet idler/tensioner pulleys with the lightest, smallest diameter crank pulley that will still spin the alternator at the underdriven speed. L/T headers with dumps at the end. quarter-master button-style clutch assembly, PST carbonfiber driveshaft with aluminum yokes, slotted/drilled rear discs, 12 lb rear wheels, Spool, EGR delete, 75mm TB...
Well, the A/C compressor should have low drag when it's off but it would be one less pulley (all of which have weight and friction, however small, associated with them). The powersteering certainly would get rid of belt drag since it's a belt-driven accessory. The clutch assembly I described is a little over 4 inches instead of 11 inches in diameter giving is a mush smaller moment of interia, not to mention it is a small fraction of the weight of a stocker and has 0 slippage. This results in quite a bit less power loss through the drive-train and even at the flywheel since a much smaller lighter flywheel is used. The lighter brakes, driveshaft, and rear wheels would also seriously cut-down on power loss because it takes power to spin all that weight.... power that is lost before the rubber ever meets the dyno.
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LOL Just Bolt On Kenne Bell Supercharger 6psi or 9psi lol and your past the mark lol
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but you'd still be limited to the maximum amount of horsepower that you get through the crank before it even has a chance of having any sort of loss through the mentioned parts.

Just seems like a waste of time for all that stuff in a daily driven vehicle. Your time and money would be much better spent on parts that actually increase the horsepower, rather than "free up" 1 or 2HP.


But with your last post I agree. Get that thing breathing nice, and prepare it for a supercharger. When all is said and done, you'll only wish you had done it sooner anyway.


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How will removing A/C, power steering, and installing an aftermarket clutch assembly, driveshaft, brake upgrades or rear wheels give him any horsepower whatsoever?



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Let me take a stab at it.

P-51 Intake with a Lightning MAF, No Screen and a Huge Filter strapped on to it or no filter for that matter.
Stage II Naturally Aspirated cams and Valve springs to spin to 7k RPMs. A/C removed, Powersteering removed, Electric Water pump, Underdriven Alternator, lightweight billet idler/tensioner pulleys with the lightest, smallest diameter crank pulley that will still spin the alternator at the underdriven speed. L/T headers with dumps at the end. quarter-master button-style clutch assembly, PST carbonfiber driveshaft with aluminum yokes, slotted/drilled rear discs, 12 lb rear wheels, Spool, EGR delete, 75mm TB...
Well, the A/C compressor should have low drag when it's off but it would be one less pulley (all of which have weight and friction, however small, associated with them). The powersteering certainly would get rid of belt drag since it's a belt-driven accessory. The clutch assembly I described is a little over 4 inches instead of 11 inches in diameter giving is a mush smaller moment of interia, not to mention it is a small fraction of the weight of a stocker and has 0 slippage. This results in quite a bit less power loss through the drive-train and even at the flywheel since a much smaller lighter flywheel is used. The lighter brakes, driveshaft, and rear wheels would also seriously cut-down on power loss because it takes power to spin all that weight.... power that is lost before the rubber ever meets the dyno.
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Way off gray ghost. With those mods maybe 260 to the wheels.
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Let me take a stab at it.

P-51 Intake with a Lightning MAF, No Screen and a Huge Filter strapped on to it or no filter for that matter.
Stage II Naturally Aspirated cams and Valve springs to spin to 7k RPMs. A/C removed, Powersteering removed, Electric Water pump, Underdriven Alternator, lightweight billet idler/tensioner pulleys with the lightest, smallest diameter crank pulley that will still spin the alternator at the underdriven speed. L/T headers with dumps at the end. quarter-master button-style clutch assembly, PST carbonfiber driveshaft with aluminum yokes, slotted/drilled rear discs, 12 lb rear wheels, Spool, EGR delete, 75mm TB...

That has to be one of the funniest posts I have read in a long time. C'mon guys. There is too much thought into reducing reciprocating weight and mass when the thread deals with HP. Put the pipe down and walk towards the light.
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It's easy to get a mustang to 325-350 hp with bolt ons, all you need is one.

Bolt on a supercharger, done, it's that easy.
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Is it possible to get 325 hp with bolt on's and what parts would you put togeather to get it if so?
No, it is not possible, rear wheel OR flywheel.

With my below listed mods (every bolton + cams and tune) I am making something around 322 flywheel horsepower, or 280 RWHP. Some people claim to have made/make 280 RWHP with no cams, but I stronly beileve (as do others) that their dynos were screwed up when they did this.

BTW this is for a SOHC 99-04 GT car, not a DOHC car or a 05+ GT.


hahaha. the 05 can get right around there with a new intake and SCT and removing that little honey comb thing.

yes, i'm jealious of the 05s great power potential with just simple boltons. [:@]
did you see the new mm&ff?? 05 gt dynoed stock 272 whp and 297ft lb. they bolted on a vortech (v2 sq i think) kit and tuned it to 511whp 440ft lb at 11psi and had to stop because they ran out of fuel. im not sure how the motor will handle it... but impressive regardless
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not my but a friend of mines 04 gt made 285 rwhp with lt xpipe upper plenum 75mm tb mac cia and a dyno tune. (the guys that tuned the car said it was the highest they had ever seen with a set up like that but still it did it) thats not too far form 325 fly wheel. i would say if he did a set of cams and pullies with a few other things his car would def be there.
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that's over 325 flywheel...more like 333 (using 17% loss)
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