The unofficial resource center for Mustang owners and enthusiasts
Ford Mustang Forums - Ford Mustang Classifieds - MustangForums.com Photo Galleries - MustangForums.com Chat Room - Create an Account - Mustang News


Go Back   MustangForums.com > Ford Mustang Tech > 2005 - 2011 Mustangs > 4.6L V8 Specific General Discussion > 4.6L V8 Technical Discussions
Welcome to Mustang Forums!
Welcome to Mustang Forums.

You are currently viewing our forum as a guest, which gives you limited access to view most discussions and access our other features. By joining our community, at no cost, you will have access to post topics, communicate privately with other members (PM), respond to polls, upload content and access many other special features. Registration is free, fast and simple, so please join our community today!


Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 10-24-2009, 12:57 PM   #1
Goldenpony
4th Gear Member
 
Goldenpony's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location:
Posts: 1,518
Default Oil analysis report - Not so great

I decided to switch to Amsoil 0W20 oil and Amsoil filter. Amsoil claims this combo good for up to 25K miles. Anyway, I put it in at 50K miles. At 60K miles, I took an oil sample and sent it to Blackstone Labs. I just got the results. They said it had high levels of iron, aluminum and chrome and suggested going to a 5K mile cycle instead of 10K miles.
I will do just that until my current supply of Amsoil oil is gone and will switch to Pennzoil Platinum 5W20 and Motorcraft filter and change it at 5K miles. Lesson learned. Hope I didn't do too much damage.
This ad is not displayed to registered or logged-in members.
Register your free account today and become a member on Mustang Forums!
__________________
2006 Premium GT Convertible
Screaming Yellow, Black Top
5 Speed
18" "Fanblade Wheels"
CORSA Performance exhaust
Brenspeed 93 octane tune
MGW Shifter
Goldenpony is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-24-2009, 02:45 PM   #2
hardcore302
1st Gear Member
 
hardcore302's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Vehicle: 2007 Ford Mustang GT
Location: New York
Posts: 123
Default

hmm. good luck.

how much was the test?
__________________
2007 black GT- JLT2 w/ Brenspeed tune, FRPP X, Edelbrock mufflers, GMS strut brace, BMR UCA, LCA's, panhard rod, Summit A-arm brace, baby seat.
hardcore302 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-24-2009, 03:14 PM   #3
scorpio333
2nd Gear Member
 
scorpio333's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Posts: 169
Default

What did you run the first 50K? Did you have any samples drawn during that period?
__________________
scorpio333 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-24-2009, 03:56 PM   #4
Goldenpony
4th Gear Member
 
Goldenpony's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location:
Posts: 1,518
Default

Before I ran the Amsoil I ran Mobil 1 changed at 5K miles.
The test cost $22.50 with an extra $10 for a different test to test for additives, TBN test (The additives were still OK)). No, I didn't do a test with the Mobil 1.
I changed the oil at 60K miles and I will only leave it in for 5K miles this time.
I'm not overly concerned - I'm just glad I got the test kit. Now I know to change my maintenance plan.
__________________
2006 Premium GT Convertible
Screaming Yellow, Black Top
5 Speed
18" "Fanblade Wheels"
CORSA Performance exhaust
Brenspeed 93 octane tune
MGW Shifter
Goldenpony is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-24-2009, 04:00 PM   #5
Jbauer
4th Gear Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Posts: 1,094
Default

the high levels of iron and the other wear metals are because you ran mobil 1.
I dont use amsoil..i would never spend that much money on oil and i think its foolish for anyone to do so; but even though i dont use amsoil and never ever will..im 99 percent sure if you do another intrevel with AMSoil...you will have results that are 5 times better.

Mobil 1 constantly has issues with showing wear metals on oil analysis when brands are switched. even alone, it has high levels of wear metals on analysis. It's a crap oil imo and i have no idea why its become so popular. It's the last oil i'd use on any car.

BTW: i'm surprsied blackstone didnt tell you this..they should know quite well that cars that ran Mobil 1 before show high levels of iron and wear metals when it is switched to another brand.

Last edited by Jbauer; 10-24-2009 at 10:25 PM.
Jbauer is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-25-2009, 09:15 AM   #6
candymanjl
2nd Gear Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Vehicle: 2009, Mustang GT
Location: Florida
Posts: 195
Default

I always use full synthetic (after the motor is broken in) and I change the oil every 3,000 miles. I don't care if they say you can go longer, there's huge consequences for going too long between oil changes and no consequences at all for changing too often (except a little extra money). I've used castrol and mobil one and never had any performance issues and I beat on my cars, never had anything tested though.

I've torn down some of the motors in my old cars to do upgrades and the motors are super clean inside. between full synthetic and 93+ octane for the life of the motor when you take one apart the difference compared to cheap gas and cheap oil is obvious.
__________________
2009 Mustang GT - Hurst Short Shifter
13.9 @ 100.5mph, 2.1 60' (Density Altitude: 1985 feet)
candymanjl is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-25-2009, 11:53 AM   #7
SilverNGrey4.6s
4th Gear Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Vehicle: 02 Ford Mustang GT and 03 Crown Victoria PI
Location: austin,TX
Posts: 1,043
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by candymanjl View Post
I always use full synthetic (after the motor is broken in) and I change the oil every 3,000 miles. I don't care if they say you can go longer, there's huge consequences for going too long between oil changes and no consequences at all for changing too often (except a little extra money).
So are you saying that anything over 3000 miles is to long?
__________________

2003 Grey Crown Victoria Police Interceptor the DD stock
2002 Silver Mustang Gt not stock
JLT Cold air intake
Accufab 75mm Throttle Body & Plenum
Mac longtube headers
Dr.Gas o/r x
SLP Loudmouth 1
3.73 gears
Steeda tri ax short shifter
H&R sport springs
Tokico HP Shocks & Shruts
18x9/18x10 Black chrome bullitt rims
SCT Xcal 2 tuner done by JMS Chip and perf.
http://Centraltexasstangs.com
SilverNGrey4.6s is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 10-25-2009, 01:37 PM   #8
.boB
3rd Gear Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location:
Posts: 610
Default

If the TBN numbers were good, the oil still had some life in it. You didn't really need to change it.

The heavy metals are there because of engine wear. By all accounts, Amsoil is as good as almost any other oil on the market. I wouldn't think that additional wear was caused by the Amsoil.

M1, OTOH, is not such a great oil. It tests out in the middle of the pack. I would blame the wear particles on the years of M1.
__________________
.boB
'08 V6 Pony
'65 Monster FFR Roadster
.boB is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-25-2009, 02:56 PM   #9
BruceH
3rd Gear Member
2008 Ford Mustang
 
BruceH's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Vehicle: 2008 Mustang GT/CS
Posts: 700
Default

Where do you get the info on Mobil 1? I use it and would really like to see the test results on it. A comparison of most popular oils would really be nice if it exists.

The oil filter tests were an eye opener.
__________________
2008 GT/CS 5 Speed
Control Arms, Prothane MM's
Aluminum DS, McLeod RST/Fidanza FW
FRPP Ceramic Shorties
FRPP Whipple HO


Motor build underway


Whipple Crew
BruceH is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-25-2009, 04:03 PM   #10
moosestang
6th Gear Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Gainesville, FL
Posts: 8,291
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Jbauer View Post
the high levels of iron and the other wear metals are because you ran mobil 1.
I dont use amsoil..i would never spend that much money on oil and i think its foolish for anyone to do so; but even though i dont use amsoil and never ever will..im 99 percent sure if you do another intrevel with AMSoil...you will have results that are 5 times better.

Mobil 1 constantly has issues with showing wear metals on oil analysis when brands are switched. even alone, it has high levels of wear metals on analysis. It's a crap oil imo and i have no idea why its become so popular. It's the last oil i'd use on any car.

BTW: i'm surprsied blackstone didnt tell you this..they should know quite well that cars that ran Mobil 1 before show high levels of iron and wear metals when it is switched to another brand.
That sounds like the biggest bunch of BS i've ever heard. Stop spreading FUD. Here's my oil analysis using mobil 1 5w30.



I don't drink the mobil 1 kool-aid and definitely not the Amsoil kool-aid. I changed to penzoil platinum and I guess when I do an oil analysis, my wear metals will be really high because I previously ran mobil 1. That makes no F'ning sense at all.

OP, post the oil analysis.
__________________
Boost or Buell, decisions, decisions.

whipple HO SC,FRPP springs, Pypes mid mufflers, hurst, 4.10's, J&M extreme joint lca's, adj. UCA, relo bracets, 1 piece DS, spec stg 2 clutch. Accel coils 12.52@117.6mph so far with a 2.01 60 ft time(pre shaft, coils, clutch).

Downshifting Crew Member
moosestang is offline   Reply With Quote



Reply



Tags
analysis, blackstone, car, oil, read, report

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off
Forum Jump

Advertising

Featured Sponsors
New Sponsors
All times are GMT -5. The time now is 02:44 PM.

© Internet Brands, Inc.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.1
Copyright ©2000 - 2009, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Search Engine Friendly URLs by vBSEO 3.2.0

This forum is owned and operated by Internet Brands, Inc., a Delaware corporation. It is not authorized or endorsed by the Ford Motor Company and is not affiliated with the Ford Motor Company or its related companies in any way. Ford® is a registered trademark of the Ford Motor Company