Check Engine Light
10-26-2011, 08:36 PM
#1
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Check Engine Light
Hi everyone, I am new to the forum so please excuse me if I have posted this question in the wrong place.
-About 6 months ago at bout 85k miles I replaced my clutch
-After the replacement I have had a rough idle, especially under load (w/ ac on)
-No codes were on but I did try replacing my fuel filter and air filter. I also cleaned all the sensors in the throttle body with electronic duster. I did wipe the throttle body but it was clean.
-The problem of a rough idle has persisted but without the ac on the car ran normal
-Now I have 95k miles and the check engine light just went on
-I have noticed the black carbon on my exhaust, suggesting my fuel mixture is running rich
Anybody have advise on what to do next?
Thanks in advance for any help, much appreciated
-About 6 months ago at bout 85k miles I replaced my clutch
-After the replacement I have had a rough idle, especially under load (w/ ac on)
-No codes were on but I did try replacing my fuel filter and air filter. I also cleaned all the sensors in the throttle body with electronic duster. I did wipe the throttle body but it was clean.
-The problem of a rough idle has persisted but without the ac on the car ran normal
-Now I have 95k miles and the check engine light just went on
-I have noticed the black carbon on my exhaust, suggesting my fuel mixture is running rich
Anybody have advise on what to do next?
Thanks in advance for any help, much appreciated
10-27-2011, 10:48 AM
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I got the codes;
B2103
P0171
P0174
Strangly enough looks like its running lean. Should I start by thrown smoke through the system to see if there are any leaks? What if I don't find any leaks, what are the other possibilities?
B2103
P0171
P0174
Strangly enough looks like its running lean. Should I start by thrown smoke through the system to see if there are any leaks? What if I don't find any leaks, what are the other possibilities?
10-27-2011, 11:12 AM
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B2103 9232 Antenna Not Connected - Defective Transceiver
As for further possibilities for the 2 bank lean codes, don't know, sure others will have other things to check/replace aside from hoses and the like.
Last edited by wayne613; 10-27-2011 at 11:14 AM.
10-27-2011, 11:21 AM
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based on your description of events leading up to the rough
running, i have to go with an oxygen sensor issue. if all you did
was drop the transmission, do the clutch work, then raise it
again the only thing that could have got disturbed really is the
wiring harness. i'd look over the oxygen sensor wiring (mainly the
front sensors) to make sure there is no pinching or burning or
any other abnormality. also front connectors going front, rears
going rear....
the PCM may think the system is lean based on the oxygen sensor
feedback, but in reality the combustion in the cylinders may be rich
which explains the coating on your exhaust tips.
i don't see P2103 listed in the mustang DTC chart.
running, i have to go with an oxygen sensor issue. if all you did
was drop the transmission, do the clutch work, then raise it
again the only thing that could have got disturbed really is the
wiring harness. i'd look over the oxygen sensor wiring (mainly the
front sensors) to make sure there is no pinching or burning or
any other abnormality. also front connectors going front, rears
going rear....
the PCM may think the system is lean based on the oxygen sensor
feedback, but in reality the combustion in the cylinders may be rich
which explains the coating on your exhaust tips.
i don't see P2103 listed in the mustang DTC chart.
10-27-2011, 11:56 AM
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10-27-2011, 12:14 PM
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Wow, thanks guys! So it looks like I have 2 problems.
1. B2103 Passive Anti-Theft System
The car has always randomly flashed the anti-theft symbol when locked. Never had any battery drainage problems, and that's the only code that came up. I am not sure what this means, would that code trip the check engine light? Is this how it should work and I should try a reset of the computer?
2. P0171 and P0174 Lean
Oxygen sensor makes sense the way you explain the conflicting physical evidence of it running rich, but the electronic evidence saying it's running lean. Ill check it out if I dont have the leaks obviously, but I've checked for leaks 6 months ago and found nothing so I anticipate I'll still wont find no leaks. I'll let you know how it works out. Thanks for the help.
1. B2103 Passive Anti-Theft System
The car has always randomly flashed the anti-theft symbol when locked. Never had any battery drainage problems, and that's the only code that came up. I am not sure what this means, would that code trip the check engine light? Is this how it should work and I should try a reset of the computer?
2. P0171 and P0174 Lean
Oxygen sensor makes sense the way you explain the conflicting physical evidence of it running rich, but the electronic evidence saying it's running lean. Ill check it out if I dont have the leaks obviously, but I've checked for leaks 6 months ago and found nothing so I anticipate I'll still wont find no leaks. I'll let you know how it works out. Thanks for the help.
10-27-2011, 06:54 PM
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Are you modded at all? Any chance you installed a CAI without a retune?
My first thoughts when I read your post was right in line with hammeron's thinking: O2 sensors/wiring.
My first thoughts when I read your post was right in line with hammeron's thinking: O2 sensors/wiring.