5.0L (1979-1995) Mustang Technical discussions on 5.0 Liter Mustangs within. This does not include the 5.0 from the 2011 Mustang GT. That information is in the 2005-1011 section.

3 quick questions on installing my heads

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 06-15-2006, 05:58 PM
  #1  
RawGtPower
3rd Gear Member
Thread Starter
 
RawGtPower's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location:
Posts: 552
Default 3 quick questions on installing my heads

1. Is there a Left and a right side with afr heads, or does it matter which head goes to which side.
2. my arp studs say use thread sealer if my the studs go into water jackets, and use thread lubricant if they go into just the block. Does anyone know if my studs will thread into a water hole or not.
3. If i need to use the lube, arp recommends to use moly lube or oil. Is it alright to use 10w30 motor oil.

Thanks for the help
RawGtPower is offline  
Old 06-15-2006, 06:16 PM
  #2  
gspfunk
5th Gear Member
 
gspfunk's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Texas
Posts: 3,834
Default RE: 3 quick questions on installing my heads

If they're studs, I'd use Loctite on them period. You shouldn't need to remove them again anyway. Use anti-seize on the nuts after the heads are on.
gspfunk is offline  
Old 06-15-2006, 06:30 PM
  #3  
RawGtPower
3rd Gear Member
Thread Starter
 
RawGtPower's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location:
Posts: 552
Default RE: 3 quick questions on installing my heads

what torque per pound should i tighten the studs into the block
RawGtPower is offline  
Old 06-15-2006, 06:56 PM
  #4  
Grimace5.0
I ♥ Acer
 
Grimace5.0's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location:
Posts: 1,130
Default RE: 3 quick questions on installing my heads

You can use oil on the threads if the bolts/studs don't go into the water jackets. If
i recall, only the bottom row goes into water. Better check to be 100% certain.

Torque specs:
--Step 1 25-35 ft/lbs
--Step 2 45-55 ft/lbs
--Step 3 75-85 ft/lbs

Torque sequence:
http://www.my5oh.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=119
Grimace5.0 is offline  
Old 06-15-2006, 07:44 PM
  #5  
gspfunk
5th Gear Member
 
gspfunk's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Texas
Posts: 3,834
Default RE: 3 quick questions on installing my heads


ORIGINAL: Grimace5.0

You can use oil on the threads if the bolts/studs don't go into the water jackets. If
i recall, only the bottom row goes into water. Better check to be 100% certain.

Torque specs:
--Step 1 25-35 ft/lbs
--Step 2 45-55 ft/lbs
--Step 3 75-85 ft/lbs


Torque sequence:
http://www.my5oh.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=119
I just went w/ loctite on all the studs b/c I have no intention of removing them agian. I tightened them as tight as I could get them w/ a hex bit. If you have aluminum heads you need to be more careful so you don't strip them....

Grimace's tq specs above are correct once you are tightening the nuts on the heads. I think aluminum heads may be different, but I'm not sure.
gspfunk is offline  
Old 06-15-2006, 09:21 PM
  #6  
tinman
5th Gear Member
 
tinman's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Arizona
Posts: 4,103
Default RE: 3 quick questions on installing my heads

+1
I concur......
tinman is offline  
Old 06-15-2006, 09:29 PM
  #7  
RawGtPower
3rd Gear Member
Thread Starter
 
RawGtPower's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location:
Posts: 552
Default RE: 3 quick questions on installing my heads

ok now heres a brain teaser... how come on the felpro head gaskets, there is only water jacket cutouts on the rear on the gaskets instead of both sides?
RawGtPower is offline  
Old 06-15-2006, 11:26 PM
  #8  
silver91gt
5th Gear Member
 
silver91gt's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location:
Posts: 3,195
Default RE: 3 quick questions on installing my heads

for your AFR heads, they are not side specific, but look at the bolt holes for the accessories in your old heads, the new heads come with 2 threaded inserts that fill the front thermactor holes, just pay attention on which size bolts go in which holes.


for aluminum heads the max torque is 70 ft lbs for the bottom bolts, and 80 for the top. do it in 4 even steps.


the studs themselves only need to be tight, not cranked in as tight as you can.
the lower bolts thread into cooling ports, and need thread sealer.

get a small bottle of camshaft assembly lube, it is a moly lubricant, and you will get correct torque readings with the use of it.
you need more torque with oil, which isnt recommended with aluminum heads.

dont use any anti-seize on any of the head bolts, it will cause incorrect torque readings!

it clearly says in the instructions to use a good quality moly lube on the bolts.
silver91gt is offline  
Old 06-15-2006, 11:28 PM
  #9  
silver91gt
5th Gear Member
 
silver91gt's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location:
Posts: 3,195
Default RE: 3 quick questions on installing my heads


ORIGINAL: RawGtPower

ok now heres a brain teaser... how come on the felpro head gaskets, there is only water jacket cutouts on the rear on the gaskets instead of both sides?
all 302 head gaskets are like this.
this is how the engines were designed.
just make sure the word front is at the front.
silver91gt is offline  
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
djbigskrilla
2005-2014 Mustangs
24
09-20-2022 01:04 AM
NorthAmericanTuning
S550 2015-2023 Mustang
3
03-18-2016 11:21 AM
richard1027
GT S197 General Discussion
8
09-09-2015 07:23 PM
richard1027
GT S197 General Discussion
3
09-08-2015 01:24 PM
DrunknRuckus
4.6L (1996-2004 Modular) Mustang
5
08-23-2015 10:05 AM



Quick Reply: 3 quick questions on installing my heads



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 11:08 PM.