Piston Ring Orientation-Quick Question
03-28-2008, 04:17 PM
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Piston Ring Orientation-Quick Question
Hastings Manufacturer
The Top Ring=? with or without groove
The Middle Ring =? with or without groove
Last Ring= Oil Ring-figured easy lol
The issue I have 2 of the same thickness Rings. One has a groove , one does not.
Both have Dots to be aimed toward the top, I know of that.
No instructions, and the ones off the old pistons were both without grooves, the one with the groove has a flat paint colored edge, the other shiny.
Im dealing with the infamous Metric Pistons [:'(]
WHERE DOES HE GO
AND THIS, IT HAS A DOT ON IT TOO
This is thirds, I KNOW WHERE IT GOES
The Top Ring=? with or without groove
The Middle Ring =? with or without groove
Last Ring= Oil Ring-figured easy lol
The issue I have 2 of the same thickness Rings. One has a groove , one does not.
Both have Dots to be aimed toward the top, I know of that.
No instructions, and the ones off the old pistons were both without grooves, the one with the groove has a flat paint colored edge, the other shiny.
Im dealing with the infamous Metric Pistons [:'(]
WHERE DOES HE GO AND THIS, IT HAS A DOT ON IT TOO This is thirds, I KNOW WHERE IT GOES
03-28-2008, 05:53 PM
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RE: Piston Ring Orientation-Quick Question
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Yeah, if one is moly it's the top ring.
Yeah, if one is moly it's the top ring.
03-28-2008, 07:19 PM
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RE: Piston Ring Orientation-Quick Question
Yeah, that's what I meant. It's obvious which one is moly, and that's the top one. If neither are moly then it makes it a bit more of a challenge to figure out which one is the top ring.
I've used Hastings ring sets before, and iirc sometimes the top or sometimes the 2nd has the notch in it. It's been a while though. I think the 2nd is USUALLY the one with the notch, so it twists on the downward stroke to have a better oil scraping effect, sorta like a squeegee.
I've used Hastings ring sets before, and iirc sometimes the top or sometimes the 2nd has the notch in it. It's been a while though. I think the 2nd is USUALLY the one with the notch, so it twists on the downward stroke to have a better oil scraping effect, sorta like a squeegee.
03-28-2008, 08:28 PM
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RE: Piston Ring Orientation-Quick Question
YEAH ONE IS CHROME ON THE OUTER
the other has a nasty black type flat color, so that one is the number two?/middle.
What kills me , is the ones you take off dont have any notch, or one is moly, the other, iron
These rings cost twice as what the others do
the other has a nasty black type flat color, so that one is the number two?/middle.
What kills me , is the ones you take off dont have any notch, or one is moly, the other, iron
These rings cost twice as what the others do
03-28-2008, 08:34 PM
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RE: Piston Ring Orientation-Quick Question
Yeah, the silver/chrome looking ring facing that contacts the cylinder wall is the moly(or chrome if you actually have chrome rings) ring, that's the top one. The black one is the 2nd ring.
And don't feel bad on cost, my Mahle rings are about $100 a set and need to be filed to fit. Plasma moly.
And don't feel bad on cost, my Mahle rings are about $100 a set and need to be filed to fit. Plasma moly.
03-28-2008, 09:32 PM
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RE: Piston Ring Orientation-Quick Question
Well I just had some KING ALECULAR RACING bearings imported from Israel .
These are top notch bearings.
They are WAY heavier than stock, and the outer edges form at an angle, when joined together, makes a whole(circle).
They are also designed differently than stock , to promote oil pressure and prevent bearing failure.
The guy at the track is a Machinist and uses them in his drag car with over 2,000 HP!
He states, they use a MASSIVE amount of material, stamped into a bearing, then polish them, and put silicone coating on them at a molecular level.
These are top notch bearings.
They are WAY heavier than stock, and the outer edges form at an angle, when joined together, makes a whole(circle).
They are also designed differently than stock , to promote oil pressure and prevent bearing failure.
The guy at the track is a Machinist and uses them in his drag car with over 2,000 HP!
He states, they use a MASSIVE amount of material, stamped into a bearing, then polish them, and put silicone coating on them at a molecular level.
03-28-2008, 10:16 PM
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RE: Piston Ring Orientation-Quick Question
ORIGINAL: aode08
Well I just had some KING ALECULAR RACING bearings imported from Israel .
These are top notch bearings.
They are WAY heavier than stock, and the outer edges form at an angle, when joined together, makes a whole(circle).
They are also designed differently than stock , to promote oil pressure and prevent bearing failure.
The guy at the track is a Machinist and uses them in his drag car with over 2,000 HP!
He states, they use a MASSIVE amount of material, stamped into a bearing, then polish them, and put silicone coating on them at a molecular level.
Well I just had some KING ALECULAR RACING bearings imported from Israel .
These are top notch bearings.
They are WAY heavier than stock, and the outer edges form at an angle, when joined together, makes a whole(circle).
They are also designed differently than stock , to promote oil pressure and prevent bearing failure.
The guy at the track is a Machinist and uses them in his drag car with over 2,000 HP!
He states, they use a MASSIVE amount of material, stamped into a bearing, then polish them, and put silicone coating on them at a molecular level.
03-29-2008, 09:42 AM
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RE: Piston Ring Orientation-Quick Question
Occording to the Manual, this is how I have to install my ring gap pattern on the pistons.
This applies to the Metric, 5.0 HO right? Im confused on this part, what does it mean?
This applies to the Metric, 5.0 HO right? Im confused on this part, what does it mean?