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Old 04-21-2008, 06:57 AM
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I'm curious as to what would cause this.

When I start my 91 GT 5 speed with the foot on the brake and the clutch sunk and I start going through the gears;

Gear 1 - Ok
Gear 2 - Grinds (a little)
Gear 3 - Grinds
Gear 4 - Ok
Gear 5 - Ok
Reverse - Grinds

Is this a:

1. Gearbox Problem (Syncros or Just replace)?
2. Clutch Problem (Adjust or Just replace)?
3. Idle Problem (idles at about 1k RPM)
4. Something else?


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Old 04-21-2008, 07:41 AM
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try adjusting your clutch and see what it gets you
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Old 04-21-2008, 09:41 AM
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most likely clutch needs adjustment or cable is stretched
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Old 04-21-2008, 11:47 AM
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syncros are junked in 2nd and 3rd gears, try doing an oil change and use gm syncromesh and your idle shouldnt be that high, it should be around the 750 mark [sm=icon_cheers.gif]
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syncros are junked in 2nd and 3rd gears, try doing an oil change and use gm syncromesh and your idle shouldnt be that high, it should be around the 750 mark [sm=icon_cheers.gif]

How do I oil change a gearbox? Is there a drain plug?
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syncros are junked in 2nd and 3rd gears, try doing an oil change and use gm syncromesh and your idle shouldnt be that high, it should be around the 750 mark [sm=icon_cheers.gif]
Highly unlikely.

Those gears are a common problem when your clutch cable has been stretched. Try adjusting it or just replacing it.
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Old 04-21-2008, 08:23 PM
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syncros are junked in 2nd and 3rd gears, try doing an oil change and use gm syncromesh and your idle shouldnt be that high, it should be around the 750 mark [sm=icon_cheers.gif]
Highly unlikely.

Those gears are a common problem when your clutch cable has been stretched. Try adjusting it or just replacing it.
Ok well you tell me this then, i dont even use a clutch when shifting from 1st to 2nd and 2nd to 3rd and so on and mine does it in those gears too (not every time)so tell me how that could be the cable, when im not even pushing in the clutch
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Old 04-21-2008, 08:25 PM
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ohh and btw, it will always grind in reverse, cuz theres no syncros in reverse
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ohh and btw, it will always grind in reverse, cuz theres no syncros in reverse
No. It will only grind going into reverse if your clutch disc/input shaft etc are still spinning and you try to engage reverse.
Try pressing the clutch pedal and wait about 3 or more seconds. This will give the disc time to stop spinning. If you can now engage reverse without grinding you can be sure your clutch is fully disengaging.

bbb. I do believe synchros are not your problem. Because you have this problem with forward AND reverse.
Most likely your clutch is not fully disengaging. How far up off the carpet does your clutch start to engage?
As for an idle problem. Definately not related.
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ohh and btw, it will always grind in reverse, cuz theres no syncros in reverse
No. It will only grind going into reverse if your clutch disc/input shaft etc are still spinning and you try to engage reverse.
Try pressing the clutch pedal and wait about 3 or more seconds. This will give the disc time to stop spinning. If you can now engage reverse without grinding you can be sure your clutch is fully disengaging.

bbb. I do believe synchros are not your problem. Because you have this problem with forward AND reverse.
Most likely your clutch is not fully disengaging. How far up off the carpet does your clutch start to engage?
As for an idle problem. Definately not related.

My clutch engages right off the carpet. I also have an adjustable cable and there's slack in the cable. I'm going to adjust and tighten it this evening.



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