JD Stang

I recently placed this in the General Forum and should have placed the questions in the proper forum, apologize for the inconvenience. Any case, I've got a "90" Mustang GT that is currently @ the shop being rebuilt. The engine needs a great amount ofwork. (i.e. timing chain, rear main needs replacing, heads needs to be spec'd, replace motor mounts and clutch replacement) We are thinking that it wouldcost effective if I replace the engine with a long block. If doing so, I would like to increase the horsepower without jeopordizing the chances of smogging the vehicle in California. Any suggestions on the type of motor and whereit can purchased?</P>


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95Stealth302

The problem lies in the fact that any new, larger stroke/bore engines you make or put in have a chance to be conflicting with the emissions system in California. If you have the car running right, you'll definately pass emissions, just make sure you save your catted midpipe to put back on when you go to testing, as welll has retard timing alot and have a full gas tank. Anyway, you will be able to be leagle with a long block, as long as it's healthy and you know some tricks. Otherwise, have you thought of just rebuilding your engine and upping the bore or stroke to say 331 or something? If you can get a good deal on a long block, go for it, otherwise, do what's cheapest for the most power. </P>


If the car's currently being rebuilt with some minor ramifications, I'd just go with a stroker kit. They can be found virtually everywhere, try summitracing.com.</P>

JD Stang

Thanks for the input, I will start by checking with Summit Racing and a few other shops.</P>


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BLKSTANG9879

DOn't worry about the smog. WHen people buy those new highbread cars. That will offset the amount of smog your car is pumping out. LOL<IMG src=smileys/smiley2.gif border="0">. That how i look at it.

Buzzstang

some shops sell smog legal engines and gurantee them to pass the check. just call around and check with different companys.

mkspeed26

smog in cali = <IMG src=smileys/smiley5.gif border="0">arent they pretty strict out there?? </P>


summit is the way to go <IMG src=smileys/smiley16.gif border="0"></P>

Quik

make your motor into a 306 stock specs when itcomes to emissions. and can be made to produce large amounts of power if built right

JD Stang

From what I hearCalifornia is strict when it comes to emissions. Couldn't really compare since I haven't lived elsewhere. Since, I'm modifying with the motor now I'm concerned. I did get a chance to talk to someone in Summit and don't have an engine that is California certified. I'm considering Stroker engines, they do have motors that are CARB certified, more research needs to be done and patience.</P>


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Thanks for your input,</P>


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TheGmKiller331

there are ways of passing the smog hogs checks.And im sure there are a few places you can just buy your smog sticker from isnt there?</P>


Im so glad we dont have smog hogs here.</P>


And i fail to see how boring a motor 30 thousands of an inch will result in any gains.I wouldnt list it as a 306 when i took it in to be inspected.A 302 with the same bolt ons as a 306 will make the same power if all is equal.Now if you go 331,342,347 then you will start to feel the increase from the gained cubes.But a 306 is nothing more than a stock 302 with the cylinders bore aligned.By all means if you need it bore it out but remember you can only go as 60 thousands before the block is garbage and 30 thousands is half the block gone there so you can either go 40 over next or 60 next.</P>

mkspeed26

THERE IS NO REPLACEMENT FOR DISPLACEMENT <IMG src=smileys/smiley16.gif border="0">a 331 is more dd friendly, but i just love 347s. THUMP, THUMP. </P>


and i dontthink there are places where you can just buy the sticker, unless it is an illegal representation of one (like a fake ID, not that i would know what that is<IMG src=smileys/smiley5.gif border="0">). i do know that shops dont really like the emissions checks cause they earn more money/ hour by doing repair stuff than emissions checks so they bs their way through it a lot. if they are in the right mood they might just check really basic sh*t and give you the stickerin NY since it only costs $15 to get it done. not sure about cali though</P>