Thinking of getting back in the game...
01-02-2012, 10:35 PM
#13
2nd Gear Member
Join Date: May 2011
Location: Elgin, OK
Posts: 297
The whole tuning issue is guys tuning their car too much and the engine going bad which can happen with any car. Ford won't fix guy's engines if that happens. But if something else breaks unrelated to a tune it seems that they will fix it. Just use common sense and get a tune from a respected company. I love my manual trans car too. It's a little rough in the cold mornings but once it warms up I have no problems.
01-03-2012, 03:09 AM
#15
4th Gear Member
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Not sure
Posts: 1,724
Ok first off I bought the automatic cause the POS chinese transmission wasnt worth taking a chance with IMHO. I test drove the manual, and it grinded on a 6-5 downshift and I said **** this I'll stick with the auto. I agree 100% manuals belong in sports cars, but theres cold hard facts the a GREAT number of people have problems with these trannies. Go on SVT performance and check how many people traded their manuals for autos. If it wasnt such an issue there wouldnt have been an open investigation with ford about it.
The kid who bought my roush bumper had tranny problems, one of the salesman at my local dealership had problems, and I have 2 friends on facebook that had problems with it.
Do what you want, take your chances, I was just giving my 02 to the op. I'm not OP I dont make his decisions, I was giving him info like he asked for.
RANT OVER
The kid who bought my roush bumper had tranny problems, one of the salesman at my local dealership had problems, and I have 2 friends on facebook that had problems with it.
Do what you want, take your chances, I was just giving my 02 to the op. I'm not OP I dont make his decisions, I was giving him info like he asked for.
RANT OVER
Last edited by grabber blue gt; 01-03-2012 at 03:12 AM.
01-03-2012, 09:23 AM
#17
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: NJ
Posts: 10
I have a 2012 with the manual trans. Doesn't like to downshift into 2nd when cold but otherwise it's been ok. From what I've read Ford has made some minor changes to the trans since it was first release to deal with the shifting complaints. I believe the early 2011 cars had the most complaints/problems. Actually rented an auto 5.0 for a week last summer and while it was definitely an animal at highway speeds I still prefer the visceral thrill of a manual car.
I also have the Ford tune and GT500 axle back mufflers. Both are excellent mods IMO. The Ford tune is covered by FRPP for 3/36 if installed by a Ford dealer. I felt the power pick up everywhere but especially in the low/midrange RPM's. I've read posts claiming it's a waste compared to other aftermarket tunes but I suspect they've never actually owned the FRPP product. When I get some additional miles on the car I'll dyno it and see how it compares to some other setups.
About everybody agrees the GT500 muffers are excellent for the money. Stock exhaust is way too quiet for a Mustang.
I also have the Ford tune and GT500 axle back mufflers. Both are excellent mods IMO. The Ford tune is covered by FRPP for 3/36 if installed by a Ford dealer. I felt the power pick up everywhere but especially in the low/midrange RPM's. I've read posts claiming it's a waste compared to other aftermarket tunes but I suspect they've never actually owned the FRPP product. When I get some additional miles on the car I'll dyno it and see how it compares to some other setups.
About everybody agrees the GT500 muffers are excellent for the money. Stock exhaust is way too quiet for a Mustang.
01-03-2012, 10:15 AM
#18
Mish-ogynist
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Helena, MT
Posts: 3,780
haha yeah, just about everything is made in china now anyway.
don't be afraid of the manual, just test drive it thoroughly first. On the forums when the car was still fairly new it was blown into a big problem but i think it was more of a thing where most people with the problem were posting and the thousands of people w/o problems didn't post.
I wouldn't worry about tuning or modding, American Muscle has a guarantee if you use their tune they'll replace the engine (pay for replacement) if you have the #8 piston failure that was associated with tuning issues.
Tuners screwed up early on, changed the knock sensor settings which lead to detonation and piston #8 (the hottest) blowing up. Now you dont see people reporting it that are getting new tunes. I think its now about as safe to mod/tune these cars as it was on the 3 valve.
So far the piston #8 issue is the only one they can directly attribute to tuning/modding so it's the only thing they can legally deny coverage on. Warranties can't be completely voided even when the dealerships tell you they are and it shows in their system as voided, the law still makes them cover any issues that weren't caused by your modification.
don't be afraid of the manual, just test drive it thoroughly first. On the forums when the car was still fairly new it was blown into a big problem but i think it was more of a thing where most people with the problem were posting and the thousands of people w/o problems didn't post.
I wouldn't worry about tuning or modding, American Muscle has a guarantee if you use their tune they'll replace the engine (pay for replacement) if you have the #8 piston failure that was associated with tuning issues.
Tuners screwed up early on, changed the knock sensor settings which lead to detonation and piston #8 (the hottest) blowing up. Now you dont see people reporting it that are getting new tunes. I think its now about as safe to mod/tune these cars as it was on the 3 valve.
So far the piston #8 issue is the only one they can directly attribute to tuning/modding so it's the only thing they can legally deny coverage on. Warranties can't be completely voided even when the dealerships tell you they are and it shows in their system as voided, the law still makes them cover any issues that weren't caused by your modification.
Last edited by Mishri; 01-03-2012 at 10:17 AM.
01-03-2012, 10:37 AM
#19
3rd Gear Member
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Michigan
Posts: 786
haha yeah, just about everything is made in china now anyway.
don't be afraid of the manual, just test drive it thoroughly first. On the forums when the car was still fairly new it was blown into a big problem but i think it was more of a thing where most people with the problem were posting and the thousands of people w/o problems didn't post.
I wouldn't worry about tuning or modding, American Muscle has a guarantee if you use their tune they'll replace the engine (pay for replacement) if you have the #8 piston failure that was associated with tuning issues.
Tuners screwed up early on, changed the knock sensor settings which lead to detonation and piston #8 (the hottest) blowing up. Now you dont see people reporting it that are getting new tunes. I think its now about as safe to mod/tune these cars as it was on the 3 valve.
So far the piston #8 issue is the only one they can directly attribute to tuning/modding so it's the only thing they can legally deny coverage on. Warranties can't be completely voided even when the dealerships tell you they are and it shows in their system as voided, the law still makes them cover any issues that weren't caused by your modification.
don't be afraid of the manual, just test drive it thoroughly first. On the forums when the car was still fairly new it was blown into a big problem but i think it was more of a thing where most people with the problem were posting and the thousands of people w/o problems didn't post.
I wouldn't worry about tuning or modding, American Muscle has a guarantee if you use their tune they'll replace the engine (pay for replacement) if you have the #8 piston failure that was associated with tuning issues.
Tuners screwed up early on, changed the knock sensor settings which lead to detonation and piston #8 (the hottest) blowing up. Now you dont see people reporting it that are getting new tunes. I think its now about as safe to mod/tune these cars as it was on the 3 valve.
So far the piston #8 issue is the only one they can directly attribute to tuning/modding so it's the only thing they can legally deny coverage on. Warranties can't be completely voided even when the dealerships tell you they are and it shows in their system as voided, the law still makes them cover any issues that weren't caused by your modification.
@ Grabber, that NTHSA investigation came back debunked. They found no failures with transmissions as reported. I dont't wanna say those guys don't know what they are talking about, but they do test cars for a living..
01-03-2012, 11:55 AM
#20
3rd Gear Member
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Oldham County, Kentucky
Posts: 540
Ummm, no, only a very few are having problems. So few that the investigation was dropped. Something like a total of 32 complaints. The only real problem is shifting when the tranny is cold. Just change the tranny fluid as the TSB indicates.
Again, no, they can only refuse to warranty it if they can prove the tune was at fault for whatever damage exists. Simply tuning it does nothing to the warranty.
It's amazing how things get blown out of proportion on these forums.
OP, if you want a manual, get one. I recommend the Brembo package too.
It's amazing how things get blown out of proportion on these forums.
OP, if you want a manual, get one. I recommend the Brembo package too.