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Old Oct 13, 2009 | 10:26 AM
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man i guess i never really checked whether our blocks could handle sc and no2
i assume that means they cant handle no2 and turbo either
thanks for the advice tho
Old Oct 13, 2009 | 11:34 AM
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hey, tigercrazy, i dont know too much about the mustang 4.0 takin the turbo and nitrous but i do know that the 4.0 in mid 90's ranger can take at least 8 psi with a 75 shot, i had a friend that i used to run with when i had a isuzu space cab who did it and i dont think he did anything to the internals. when i knew him he had been running it for about 6 months and he didnt have any problems, of course it wasnt a daily driver.
Old Oct 13, 2009 | 11:40 AM
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Originally Posted by tigercrazy718
man i guess i never really checked whether our blocks could handle sc and no2
i assume that means they cant handle no2 and turbo either
thanks for the advice tho
They can handle alot, but dual power adders just has trouble written all over it. Low boost and small shot of n20 will not be as bad as some have done, but I think that is only a matter of time.
Old Oct 13, 2009 | 03:59 PM
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Originally Posted by ODDYSEY
They can handle alot, but dual power adders just has trouble written all over it. Low boost and small shot of n20 will not be as bad as some have done, but I think that is only a matter of time.
yea that makes sense
especially bc this is my daily driver
although by the time i have enough money to do all this i might already have another daily lol
Old Oct 13, 2009 | 06:32 PM
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Dual power adders is not a good idea unless you are prepared to replace the block.
Old Dec 11, 2009 | 10:50 PM
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Nitrous. I only use it for racing applications, not for a daily driver. If you're going to be installing a turbo, you might as well have extra cash somewhere because it'll cost you more than a SC in the long run. I know SC cost more than turbo kits but there's a reason why. Since I've installed forged spherical dish pistons I don't have to worry too much of engine wear. The pistons run cooler than cast and have no expension control.
About degreeing it's like 1-2 for street engines and Race engines is less than 1 degree I believe. The cylinder heads make a big difference in the power, so a decent set of cylinder heads should be used. The importance should be on the exhaust side though, because the exhaust valves should be slightly larger than standard. I can go on and on but you get my point. Camshaft overlap should be minimized with lobe centers in the area of 112-115 degrees. I had machine shop and worked on a couple of engines. From my experience, I've seen a lot of engines that have been shot by either nitrous or were running a turbo kit. (Trashed) I can go on and on. I can even write a research paper. lol
You should be fine running a sc in your v6 mustang. Engine damage is almost always caused by rpm so make sure you have the right tune and enjoy. You know what's the best part of all. Your gas milage improves on the highway; same with turbos but I prefer a SC. I have my reasons. It's all about how much you're willing to spend. Ask youself that question.
Old Dec 11, 2009 | 11:02 PM
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Is your car running rich? Nitrous is the way to go. lol It'll solve the problem, but you need forged pistons.
Old Dec 12, 2009 | 08:19 AM
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Originally Posted by zanypunk
If you're going to be installing a turbo, you might as well have extra cash somewhere because it'll cost you more than a SC in the long run.
There are many folks running SC and TC's on the 4.0 with no issues. Its not the kit that destroys the car, its the decisions someone makes with the said power adder. Seen plenty of blown Nitrous, SC and Turbo cars.

The key for all of them is good tune, cooling and conservative boost levels.
Old Dec 12, 2009 | 06:46 PM
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Originally Posted by rygenstormlocke
There are many folks running SC and TC's on the 4.0 with no issues. Its not the kit that destroys the car, its the decisions someone makes with the said power adder. Seen plenty of blown Nitrous, SC and Turbo cars.

The key for all of them is good tune, cooling and conservative boost levels.
I never said the kit destroys the car right away. But it will in the long run if you're running in a stock 4.0 lol
Tunning is a must for both set ups though. Very important.

Chances for turbos are 90% out of 100% but with SC is 98% out of 100%. from my experience.
Turbos are just plain dirty. I used to own one and got tired of doing a lot of maintance to it. I still work on them at my workplace though. Why do you think SC cost more than turbos? In the long run it'll cost an average person more with maintance, tunning, etc...
I own a kenny bell supercharger for my weekend Mustang and an x charger as a daily drive, with lot of mods to the engine block, cyl head, etc...

It all depends on how much is the person willing to spend. Chances are a turbo will bring you a lot of headaches in the long run if you're an everage joe.
Old Dec 12, 2009 | 06:56 PM
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Where did you get your numbers re: percentages? I'm very familiar with the Xcharger and Dave and a fan of his work. Don't agree on cost, I've seen SC owners dump just as much as as a TC owner on these 4.0s...again comes down to the decision the owner makes.

Its a matter of interpretation...hell, you can say anything in regards to the 'long run" if you factor in enough time.




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