cam2904

100% agree

disturbed471985

install as stated by the flock is very imprtant for overall numbers. I have seen a few btl's over the past year or so and they seem to hold up nicely. BTL is just a 2004-2005 RE MT (if u get the 3rd mag/coils/etc). The new XXX is just a show piece i have not been impressed with them at anytime considering there price. But after install the next most imprtant thing is ur electrical then your amp then your sub. Cause without the proper elec system it want matter how many 18's you got.

gregs2big

Might wanna look at DD theres a few guys around here that use them and pretty much own everything.

tgclark84

The FI btl 18's would be the best bet. They get extremely loud and are better price than the other subs mentioned. There are many people using them in dbdrag but rarely do you see xxx's in a pro comp vehicle. How loud you get with these subs and all other subs depends on the install and the amount of power you use. Just remember with a lot of power you must have the electrical system to back it. Another sub to look at would be the Incriminator Audio DP-18, these are going to be awesomesubs.What are you planning on putting these in because all three require a good amount of air space.

disturbed471985

TG the new dp line does not look like something i would suggest manily because any company tha puts CILD - Center Interlocking Dustcap Design for Easy Field Recones in there description as a selling point has got alot of work to do before id drop 600$ plus another 125$ for that spare recone kit|(( kinda sounds like another solo x to me)

tgclark84

Wellthey weredesigned around the competition scene where there is a need for in the field reconing. Most competitors put way more power to a sub than it can handle but only for a short amount of time. For a daily install you wouldn't be putting near that amount of power to the sub, therefore it would definately hold up.So for those competitors with the godly amount of power,IA designed them this way for easy, in-the-lane reconing.

disturbed471985

i understand why they did it. ive been to the drag a few times and yes some people do have to do recones but most are due to neglect like u said. but to say recones are a reg at a show is not true (ive seen more amps go up then speakers) but for 700$ i want something to last my cactus 15 is rated at 2000rms but has seen over 6200(crown dropped down to .5ohm)many of times without fault and runs daily with a 2000x going on for more then a year. Not saying all can do this but many have along with others (dd,fi,atomic,shocker) just to name a few have went well beyond want they were intead for and have made it to the next show. But if recones were the norm then i would suspect that the companys named above would have caught on to this idea(well the ones still around). not saying they want get loud as all hell cause i dont know but ill let someone else jump into the fire and see what happens before i would make that kinda money mistake.

tgclark84

I too have been to many shows and in my experiences seen many recones and for competitors taht are running non-reconeable subs(or subs that take some time to recone such as dd) have to swap out subs. I know here in the last little while blowing subs has decreased but it is still happening. You say your running Cactus Sounds 15's, what do you think about them. I have been wanting to try some of their 10's for a street A vehicle but do not know anyone with any experience with them.

johnbubby5

Ive made my mind up I'm buying the fi btl 18 s, now a amp I'm thinking 2 kicker 2500.1 amps??? that's 1200 dollars but a lot of power

johnbubby5

also I'm putting them in a Chevy lumina van