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Old 03-18-2014, 05:22 PM   #1
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So guys and gals, I've gotten pretty tired of my stock shifter since it's so clunky and I feel like it shifts pretty roughly going into second (not sure if a new shift would fix this problem, it mainly happens on cold mornings). So, here are some of the questions that I have;

1) Will a short shifter void my warranty?

2) Will it reduce the clunky and rough shifting that I experience when it's cold?

3) What is the best brand? I know people who have Hurst and Barton, the only problem I have with Hurst is the removal of the reverse lockout but I've driven a friends with a Hurst and didn't have a problem.

4) Should I buy the bracket that you can add to a Barton shifter if that is the way I decide to go? Can the Hurst use the same bracket as well?

Any and all information is appreciated!
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Old 03-18-2014, 06:05 PM   #2
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So guys and gals, I've gotten pretty tired of my stock shifter since it's so clunky and I feel like it shifts pretty roughly going into second (not sure if a new shift would fix this problem, it mainly happens on cold mornings). So, here are some of the questions that I have;

1) Will a short shifter void my warranty?
No, there have been no issues with this, unless you break the stock shifter installing/uninstalling, that won't be covered.

2) Will it reduce the clunky and rough shifting that I experience when it's cold?
This has been reported both ways, some improve, some don't. Most of the time these issues are addressed by fluid changes. Amsoil worked for me, but I didn't have any cold/rough shifting issues to start with.

3) What is the best brand? I know people who have Hurst and Barton, the only problem I have with Hurst is the removal of the reverse lockout but I've driven a friends with a Hurst and didn't have a problem.

MGW FTW! mgwltd.com Their local and support a lot of our charity events, plus they have the best shifter. Kinda pricey but I had less NVH with it than with the stock setup. If you drive to augusta they'll install it, if not we have plenty of members that will lend a helping hand or be there to take pictures when something goes wrong.

4) Should I buy the bracket that you can add to a Barton shifter if that is the way I decide to go? Can the Hurst use the same bracket as well?

MGW takes care of this, they had the two post bracket before Barton ever did.

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Old 03-18-2014, 06:35 PM   #3
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Answers in bold, hope they help!
Thanks for the help. I'll definitely look into MGW as it is comparable in price to everything else. I don't have a problem with second gear when the fluid is nice and hot. I'll think of Amsoil in the future for sure.
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I second the MGW shifter. I installed one in my '13 GT and the kit is astonishingly complete. Check out the installation video on their web site, it's very good and thorough. Unlike most of the other options the MGW completely replaces the entire shifter assembly, not just the upper part with the shift lever.

My transmission is still a bit notchy but I don't have situations where I cannot find the gear when shifting at higher RPM. The MGW is very precise. Totally worth the extra cost, it's so beautifully made it's kind of a shame it's hidden under the car!
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The Steeda Tri Ax is another popular option.

Here is a video that we did on our unit:


The shifter has been tested over a million shifts & comes with a lifetime warranty.

http://www.steeda.com/store/steeda-t...fter-555-7312/

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I am not pleased with my stock shifter too. I also noticed that cold mornings are a problem. Saving my pennies and aluminum cans and plan on getting the MGW shifter too.
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I would suggest the Steeda Tri-ax also.... Run one in my car and haven't missed a shift since it was installed. It is kind of "mechanical" feeling, but it performs flawlessly.
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Thank you, Steve ... for your feedback. To build on what Steve said ... here is another customer's testimonial:

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100% of the slop is ELIMINATED. The shifter is not notchy, it is easy to engage each gear and finding the gate is not an issue. However you never have that mushy in between the factory shifter gave you which left you wondering: is this first or third? while sitting at a light.

My favorite part is the 2-3 shift. I push forward with an open palm and the shifter authoritatively finds 3rd for me 100% of the time. You will NOT miss 3rd with this shifter.
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I enjoyed my Steeda Tri-ax when I had my '04. Also was very surprised to see how nice my Hurst was in my '03 Mach 1. Could have sworn it was a pro5.0 it was so nice!
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I know my MGW is way better than the stock shifter, haven't tried the others. If Steve says the Steeda is a great shifter, I would definitely believe him.
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Not to discredit Steve or Steeda but steve's got a different transmission (gt500 vs mt-82), unless he's not telling us something about a recent purchase. Has Steve2stangs been resurrected?

I think Jason had the Steeda shifter on his gt. IIRC he liked the really short throw but it was noisy.
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Here...Let me help... I love my Barton..........
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Not to discredit Steve or Steeda but steve's got a different transmission (gt500 vs mt-82), unless he's not telling us something about a recent purchase. Has Steve2stangs been resurrected?

I think Jason had the Steeda shifter on his gt. IIRC he liked the really short throw but it was noisy.

Steve2stangs will ride again, but he is waiting for the new car to get into dealers so I can see what they look like in person. Presently it is SteveNoStangs, as I haven't even got the red car put back together yet..... I am contemplating changing up the combo a little bit, just don't know if I am willing to roll the dice.
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I'm installing a MGW in mine next friday...I also have a buddy that has a MGW in his Boss and loves it!
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I almost forgot. I have a 50% off coupon for HURST I won at a NMRA event this past year that expires on 3/31 if you want to give them a shot. Message me right away and I'll call them Monday to get things started. I have to be the one to make the purchase so you would just send me the money via Paypal and I'd pay for it and have it shipped to you. Goes based on MSRP so look on their site and let me know if you're interested. I did this for someone with a Flowmaster coupon not too long ago because I had no use for it and won it as well. Can spend up to $600 retail so you could pick up some line locks for pretty cheap too. Just throwing it out there.
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For an MGW? If VT doesn't take you up on that I definitely would!
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For an MGW? If VT doesn't take you up on that I definitely would!
Nope for a hurst. IDK anybody who is 100% happy with the hurst shifter in the mt-82, if they'd at least tried for the reverse lockout it might have been different. But Steve seemed happy with it in his old car.
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Nope for a hurst. IDK anybody who is 100% happy with the hurst shifter in the mt-82, if they'd at least tried for the reverse lockout it might have been different. But Steve seemed happy with it in his old car.
Dave and I both had the Hurst competition plus in our 08's. They were great with the TR3650 5 speed in those cars.(No reverse lockout needed) I'll never understand how a shifter company dropped the ball so bad when the six speeds came out. Again...I love the Barton and brother Dave is like so many others, ...MGW...Barton...MGW...Barton....???
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I almost forgot. I have a 50% off coupon for HURST I won at a NMRA event this past year that expires on 3/31 if you want to give them a shot. Message me right away and I'll call them Monday to get things started. I have to be the one to make the purchase so you would just send me the money via Paypal and I'd pay for it and have it shipped to you. Goes based on MSRP so look on their site and let me know if you're interested. I did this for someone with a Flowmaster coupon not too long ago because I had no use for it and won it as well. Can spend up to $600 retail so you could pick up some line locks for pretty cheap too. Just throwing it out there.
Sorry it has taken me so long to respond. I haven't made a move yet on getting a short throw shifter as I was waiting on my tax return to come back in...

Thanks though!

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