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Old 09-23-2012, 09:41 PM   #1
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hi everyone,my boy and I decided to yank out the I6 and drop in the 87' f150 5.0 and now we have some questions. This is my first engine swap, please be patience with me and my questions. first here are some pix of the progress.

my boy navigating the I6 coming out.
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empty bay
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the new (to me) powerplant 87' f150 5.0 with a C4
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after few hours wresting it in there(we got it in and found out the mounts were installed backwards)
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and some components in
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and this is how she looks for now
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Old 09-23-2012, 09:46 PM   #2
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like i said this is my first swap and alot of questions are coming up. please tell me what you think so far.
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Old 09-24-2012, 12:55 AM   #3
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looks great, your engine bay is very clean
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Looks good so far only thing i see i don't like is that master cylinder,For safety a dual bowl master cylinder is better.
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Cool beans. Why kind of suspension upgrades did you install to go from the I6 to the V8?
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Old 09-24-2012, 08:59 AM   #6
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Cool beans. Why kind of suspension upgrades did you install to go from the I6 to the V8?
I haven't touched the suspension just yet. After we get everything running ok, we will do a 5 lug conversion.



this is the water pump that im using. looking from the front of the car which way should it rotate CCW or CW?
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That is a ccw and its right for a 87 the easy way to know what you need is see if it has serpentine belt or not,If its a serpentine belt it uses a ccw if its v belt then its a cw.
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That is a ccw and its right for a 87 the easy way to know what you need is see if it has serpentine belt or not,If its a serpentine belt it uses a ccw if its v belt then its a cw.
I installed a serpentine set-up. Does the V belt have a different bolt pattern?
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Looks very very nice. Great work, youtube the video when you fire it up for the first time. Awesome getting your son involved.

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I don't know what you mean a different bolt pattern but the serpentine is why there is a ccw water pump so your good on the water pump.Have you bought a radiator yet if not make sure you get one that has the lower hose on the driver side.
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Looks very very nice. Great work, youtube the video when you fire it up for the first time. Awesome getting your son involved.

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I will get it on youtube on first start up, and yes if it wasn't for my son I would have never even thought about doing a swap.



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I don't know what you mean a different bolt pattern but the serpentine is why there is a ccw water pump so your good on the water pump.Have you bought a radiator yet if not make sure you get one that has the lower hose on the driver side.
Well, I must have done something right about the serpentine belt. My question was, what if I decided to go with a V-belt set up? and no, i have not purchase the radiator yet, at this point I am having a hard time justifying the price between the driver side and passenger side lower hose output. Why does the price have to double if the lower hose is on the driver side.
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If you change it over to a v belt then you need a cw water pump but small block water pumps are cheap.I found this part http://www.ronmorrisperformance.com/...ode=Spec_Parts its 125 bucks but lets you use a factory radiator but i think you have to use a electric fan with it.Or if you can make that pipe or something close to it.
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is there enough tension/belt for the water pump too work?

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when i did the swap i ran into some pulley issues because i didnt use the A/C, P/S or smog. after a while i was able to set up a couple idler pulleys to remedy the problem, heres a couple pictures.


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i was having a very hard time finding the proper length serpentine belt but if you notice theres a pulley on the top right (it has a replaceable bearing in it), and another pulley for tension on the bottom left. it runs great with them on it.



also id recomend getting rid of the old mustang stock voltage regulator and getting the fox body alternator that has it internally.



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i know my engine bay is a mess =/ the car isnt running right now but it will be soon.
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oh and as for the radiator situation, just take your current radiator to a radiator shop and have them move the spout thats on your bottom tank to the other side. much cheaper than buying a whole new radiator.
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oh and as for the radiator situation, just take your current radiator to a radiator shop and have them move the spout thats on your bottom tank to the other side. much cheaper than buying a whole new radiator.
Thanks for the tensioner pix(are you trying to say my set-up isnt going to work?) I dont think the I6 radiator will be sufficient enough for the 302. I just have to fork out the money to buy the right radiator.
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im not saying your belt setup wont work, i was just sharing the problems i ran into in hopes it will help out in some way. personally i wanted to get the belt to go around the water pump as much as i could, maybe its a bit overkill but it makes me feel better
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im not saying your belt setup wont work, i was just sharing the problems i ran into in hopes it will help out in some way. personally i wanted to get the belt to go around the water pump as much as i could, maybe its a bit overkill but it makes me feel better
after looking at my setup this weekend, I am pretty sure I will need a pulley set-up like yours. I will head to the local junkyard this weekend.


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Can I use the wire powering the coil pack from the distributor to power my HEI distributor?

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I'm running a very similar setup. Just water pump and alternator. for Serpentine, I tried the tensioner pulley method but it would always squawl really loud on start up or whenever there was an alternator load. I ended up having to install a stationary idler pulley off to the side where the A/C compressor mounts.

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I'm running a very similar setup. Just water pump and alternator. for Serpentine, I tried the tensioner pulley method but it would always squawl really loud on start up or whenever there was an alternator load. I ended up having to install a stationary idler pulley off to the side where the A/C compressor mounts.

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could you please post a pic of your set-up.

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