aod question
#11
RE: aod question
ORIGINAL: dano670
There is a thread I started about a week ago on the AOD and gas mileage. In it there is info on another transmission 4R70W, that might be better.
There is a thread I started about a week ago on the AOD and gas mileage. In it there is info on another transmission 4R70W, that might be better.
The AOD's are getting old(production stopped in 93), and will need to be worked on from the start. The AODE/4R70W, found in 98-02 V-6 Mustangs will bolt right up to a small block Ford. They already have all the AOD's weaknesses addressed, and using the V-6's torque converter is like a 2600 stall converter for the V-8. By adding a shift kit & external cooler, they can be good to 600HP. Plus the 4R70W has the performance wide ratio gear set in them, all the pluses more than make up for the $550 cost, of a Baumannator TCS & Harness(needed to control AODE/4R70W)
"Project Overdrive" http://www.blueriver.net/~finite/project_od.htm shows how to do an installation into a 65-66Mustang. Phil rather over engineered his installation, It's not nearly as complicated as his article makes it seem. In fact the conversion can be a bolt in, using off the shelf parts.
If your thinking Automatic Overdrive, the AODE/4R70W, is the best choice and could actually be cheaper than using an AOD. I' absolutely convinced the wide ratio gear set, alone,has enabled my 14sec EFI car to get into 13 secin 1/4 mile's.
http://tccoa.com/articles/tranny/index.html#
http://www.becontrols.com/tech/tech.htm
http://www.ford-aod.com/#Performance%20Parts
One of these days, I'll finish my own article showing easier.
#12
RE: aod question
thanks for the info, do you happen to have any pictures of where the cut was made?
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I just made one for you. An old rusty tube that is heading for the trash.
You can see the cut / weld in the center of the photo.Note the angle the cut was made. You have to figure it out. As you rotate the cut off piece it will swing away from the oil pan. Make a mark and reweld it.
I like the 4R70W transmission best myself. I've done the swap and will never do an AOD again. The header mod applies to the 4R70W also.
[IMG]local://upfiles/36086/0745F12EEF0044E6A1FC63B5B74EEB57.jpg[/IMG]
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I just made one for you. An old rusty tube that is heading for the trash.
You can see the cut / weld in the center of the photo.Note the angle the cut was made. You have to figure it out. As you rotate the cut off piece it will swing away from the oil pan. Make a mark and reweld it.
I like the 4R70W transmission best myself. I've done the swap and will never do an AOD again. The header mod applies to the 4R70W also.
[IMG]local://upfiles/36086/0745F12EEF0044E6A1FC63B5B74EEB57.jpg[/IMG]
#13
RE: aod question
ORIGINAL: dano670
There is a thread I started about a week ago on the AOD and gas mileage. In it there is info on another transmission 4R70W, that might be better.
There is a thread I started about a week ago on the AOD and gas mileage. In it there is info on another transmission 4R70W, that might be better.
#14
RE: aod question
ORIGINAL: deadcarnahans
thanks for the info, do you happen to have any pictures of where the cut was made?
thanks for the info, do you happen to have any pictures of where the cut was made?
I just made one for you. An old rusty tube that is heading for the trash.
You can see the cut / weld in the center of the photo.Note the angle the cut was made. You have to figure it out. As you rotate the cut off piece it will swing away from the oil pan. Make a mark and reweld it.
I like the 4R70W transmission best myself. I've done the swap and will never do an AOD again. The header mod applies to the 4R70W also.
[IMG]local://upfiles/36086/0745F12EEF0044E6A1FC63B5B74EEB57.jpg[/IMG]
Sounds like i need to look into 4R70W. Thanks Mr. Classic EFI for the great links, i will be doing some research when i get a chance. Would you mind if i sent you a pm when i get some more questions? You really seem to know a lot about these.
#15
RE: aod question
[quote]ORIGINAL: snorulz
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PM me as required.
I try to take plenty pics of anything I modify or other issues.
If you do opt for the 4R70W make sure you get the wiring, slip yoke, converter and block plate. Even the shifter and cable should be obtained if possible.
96 thru 2000 will work, not sure about later years. I'm really good with electricity but the Baumann TCS made me slow down and think.
Here's a pic of a fresh rebuild 98 4R to be mated to a 351W for a 67 Mustang. I still have to install the recal kit and decide what torque converter to use.
[IMG]local://upfiles/36086/446721D2EDF74A11BE77B49473D75DED.jpg[/IMG]
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ORIGINAL: deadcarnahans
thanks for the info, do you happen to have any pictures of where the cut was made?
Sounds like i need to look into 4R70W. Thanks Mr. Classic EFI for the great links, i will be doing some research when i get a chance. Would you mind if i sent you a pm when i get some more questions? You really seem to know a lot about these.
thanks for the info, do you happen to have any pictures of where the cut was made?
Sounds like i need to look into 4R70W. Thanks Mr. Classic EFI for the great links, i will be doing some research when i get a chance. Would you mind if i sent you a pm when i get some more questions? You really seem to know a lot about these.
PM me as required.
I try to take plenty pics of anything I modify or other issues.
If you do opt for the 4R70W make sure you get the wiring, slip yoke, converter and block plate. Even the shifter and cable should be obtained if possible.
96 thru 2000 will work, not sure about later years. I'm really good with electricity but the Baumann TCS made me slow down and think.
Here's a pic of a fresh rebuild 98 4R to be mated to a 351W for a 67 Mustang. I still have to install the recal kit and decide what torque converter to use.
[IMG]local://upfiles/36086/446721D2EDF74A11BE77B49473D75DED.jpg[/IMG]
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