electric water pump
01-10-2008, 04:53 PM
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electric water pump
anyone ever used one? just wondering as i'm going back to clean the old water pump up but i thought of an electric..
i was looking at this http://store.summitracing.com/partde...p;autoview=sku -- anyone ?
i was looking at this http://store.summitracing.com/partde...p;autoview=sku -- anyone ?
01-10-2008, 05:06 PM
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RE: electric water pump
Go with a Meziere, they last a long time. mjr uses them on at least 1 of his cars iirc, hasn't had any issues with them. The Mezieres in testing have run for thousands of hours without a single issue.
01-10-2008, 05:21 PM
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RE: electric water pump
Salik, i have never seen one like that before.
I use CSR pumps on my race cars...very similar to the mezieres ones and they replace the whole water pump rather than a motor that turns a normal pump
http://store.summitracing.com/partde...p;autoview=sku
the best thing about them is that, in combination with thermo fans, we can cool down the engine from 210* at the end of a run to 160 in about 2 minutes. add to that, no horsepower loss and no noisy fan.
I use CSR pumps on my race cars...very similar to the mezieres ones and they replace the whole water pump rather than a motor that turns a normal pump
http://store.summitracing.com/partde...p;autoview=sku
the best thing about them is that, in combination with thermo fans, we can cool down the engine from 210* at the end of a run to 160 in about 2 minutes. add to that, no horsepower loss and no noisy fan.
01-10-2008, 05:52 PM
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RE: electric water pump
I have to ask why go electric? (On a street car anyway)
Seems like more stuff to go wrong to me.
IMO this is a mod that sounds really cool until you really think it through.
Takes 0 engine power to drive the pump until you remember that the energy to power the pump has to come from your alternator.
There is no such thing as "free" energy.
The electric pump make sense when racing because the engine is freed from the burden of turning the pump on1/4 mileruns when an alternator is not being used (all on the battery). In the long run the pump is going to need power from the alternator.
In addition to the cost of the pump itself, there will be trouble and expense involved in getting a belt onto the remaining belt driven items. Somehow you will need to make up for the missing pump in the belt drive setup.
Seems like more stuff to go wrong to me.
IMO this is a mod that sounds really cool until you really think it through.
Takes 0 engine power to drive the pump until you remember that the energy to power the pump has to come from your alternator.
There is no such thing as "free" energy.
The electric pump make sense when racing because the engine is freed from the burden of turning the pump on1/4 mileruns when an alternator is not being used (all on the battery). In the long run the pump is going to need power from the alternator.
In addition to the cost of the pump itself, there will be trouble and expense involved in getting a belt onto the remaining belt driven items. Somehow you will need to make up for the missing pump in the belt drive setup.
01-10-2008, 06:01 PM
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RE: electric water pump
I agree with that.
Im shooting for high 500's rwhp (not dynoed yet)
With my set up and no problems so far with the Edelbrock high flow water pump.
I dont think the electric would be felt at all or be worth the change in my set up.
Put the cash in a good Griffin or other 3" Alu.radiator and electric fan. IMHO
Im shooting for high 500's rwhp (not dynoed yet)
With my set up and no problems so far with the Edelbrock high flow water pump.
I dont think the electric would be felt at all or be worth the change in my set up.
Put the cash in a good Griffin or other 3" Alu.radiator and electric fan. IMHO
ORIGINAL: JMD
I have to ask why go electric? (On a street car anyway)
Seems like more stuff to go wrong to me.
IMO this is a mod that sounds really cool until you really think it through.
Takes 0 engine power to drive the pump until you remember that the energy to power the pump has to come from your alternator.
There is no such thing as "free" energy.
The electric pump make sense when racing because the engine is freed from the burden of turning the pump on 1/4 mile runs when an alternator is not being used (all on the battery). In the long run the pump is going to need power from the alternator.
In addition to the cost of the pump itself, there will be trouble and expense involved in getting a belt onto the remaining belt driven items. Somehow you will need to make up for the missing pump in the belt drive setup.
I have to ask why go electric? (On a street car anyway)
Seems like more stuff to go wrong to me.
IMO this is a mod that sounds really cool until you really think it through.
Takes 0 engine power to drive the pump until you remember that the energy to power the pump has to come from your alternator.
There is no such thing as "free" energy.
The electric pump make sense when racing because the engine is freed from the burden of turning the pump on 1/4 mile runs when an alternator is not being used (all on the battery). In the long run the pump is going to need power from the alternator.
In addition to the cost of the pump itself, there will be trouble and expense involved in getting a belt onto the remaining belt driven items. Somehow you will need to make up for the missing pump in the belt drive setup.
01-10-2008, 06:03 PM
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RE: electric water pump
good points JMD
I will try to get some pics from my 408 tonight before we rip it out.
it allows for lower alt mounting (better weight distribution)and shorter belt...little things that add up on a race car.
def involves some mods and not worth it on a street car unless serious restomod going for a look or someone who does regular burnout comps or autoX.
I will try to get some pics from my 408 tonight before we rip it out.
it allows for lower alt mounting (better weight distribution)and shorter belt...little things that add up on a race car.
def involves some mods and not worth it on a street car unless serious restomod going for a look or someone who does regular burnout comps or autoX.
01-10-2008, 06:14 PM
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RE: electric water pump
it's technically not going to be a 'street car' it's going to be driven on a few nights to meets, and to the track and on the weekends no more than 50 miles, so that's why i was wondering. i figured it couldn't be too bad - and that i was going to an electric fan it'd be better to have an electric pump etc.
01-10-2008, 06:39 PM
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RE: electric water pump
yeah, i agree with jmd, no need for an electric pump unless its track only in my opinion. i have a friend with a 69 and hes got an electric pump but he also has 4.56's in the rear.