clunker bill b.s.
07-31-2009, 05:00 PM
#12
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I think the cash for clunkers deal is a bad idea. I read that they are going to drop it soon.
I don't want to see the older cars dissapear to the crusher. Also, what if somone that owns a clunker gets a newer car they can't afford to make payments on then it gets repoed. Thats not good for the economy.
I don't want to see the older cars dissapear to the crusher. Also, what if somone that owns a clunker gets a newer car they can't afford to make payments on then it gets repoed. Thats not good for the economy.
the engine gets sodium silicate dumped in it and then run which will sieze the engine.
from there the car is given to a salvage auction and they have to turn it around in 3 days or its given to a junk yard.
the drive train itself (minus engine) can be sold in parts but not complete (trans, shaft,rear)
then from there the rest of the car can be parted out and sold as parts.
after 180 days the chassis itself has to be crushed.
so if anything its adding car parts for people to use as well.
at that though the car sites i frequent tha thave guys posting pictures of the cars they received as part of the program are mostly 15 yrs old or newer.
07-31-2009, 06:54 PM
#13
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Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Az
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I think the cash for clunkers deal is a bad idea. I read that they are going to drop it soon.
I don't want to see the older cars dissapear to the crusher. Also, what if somone that owns a clunker gets a newer car they can't afford to make payments on then it gets repoed. Thats not good for the economy.
I don't want to see the older cars dissapear to the crusher. Also, what if somone that owns a clunker gets a newer car they can't afford to make payments on then it gets repoed. Thats not good for the economy.
07-31-2009, 06:57 PM
#14
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Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Central Illinois
Posts: 1,751
the thing is though if you read up on the bill the car themselves are not actually crushed.
the engine gets sodium silicate dumped in it and then run which will sieze the engine.
from there the car is given to a salvage auction and they have to turn it around in 3 days or its given to a junk yard.
the drive train itself (minus engine) can be sold in parts but not complete (trans, shaft,rear)
then from there the rest of the car can be parted out and sold as parts.
after 180 days the chassis itself has to be crushed.
the engine gets sodium silicate dumped in it and then run which will sieze the engine.
from there the car is given to a salvage auction and they have to turn it around in 3 days or its given to a junk yard.
the drive train itself (minus engine) can be sold in parts but not complete (trans, shaft,rear)
then from there the rest of the car can be parted out and sold as parts.
after 180 days the chassis itself has to be crushed.
07-31-2009, 09:17 PM
#16
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Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: California
Posts: 10,468
Cash for clunkers is a great way to get used cars off the market and force people to buy new cars...it's a great government plan for the government, seeing as how they're the majority owner in one of the largest new car manufacturers....HMMMMMMM.....
And just so you know....
ABSOLUTELY DO NOT USE THE CARS.GOV SITE TO CHECK OUT THE CASH FOR CLUNKERS PROGRAM. If you click the link to apply for the rebate(primarily done by dealers) you have to agree to the privacy act statement, which then causes a message to pop up saying something to the effect of "This computer is now connected to a government database and is therefore classified as a government computer system and is therefore property of the United States Government, and all information on, transmitted to and transmitted from this computer is US government property." Nice little end run around the 4th Amendment.
And just so you know....
ABSOLUTELY DO NOT USE THE CARS.GOV SITE TO CHECK OUT THE CASH FOR CLUNKERS PROGRAM. If you click the link to apply for the rebate(primarily done by dealers) you have to agree to the privacy act statement, which then causes a message to pop up saying something to the effect of "This computer is now connected to a government database and is therefore classified as a government computer system and is therefore property of the United States Government, and all information on, transmitted to and transmitted from this computer is US government property." Nice little end run around the 4th Amendment.
07-31-2009, 09:28 PM
#17
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Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Seattle, WA
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Cash for clunkers is a great way to get used cars off the market and force people to buy new cars...it's a great government plan for the government, seeing as how they're the majority owner in one of the largest new car manufacturers....HMMMMMMM.....
And just so you know....
ABSOLUTELY DO NOT USE THE CARS.GOV SITE TO CHECK OUT THE CASH FOR CLUNKERS PROGRAM. If you click the link to apply for the rebate(primarily done by dealers) you have to agree to the privacy act statement, which then causes a message to pop up saying something to the effect of "This computer is now connected to a government database and is therefore classified as a government computer system and is therefore property of the United States Government, and all information on, transmitted to and transmitted from this computer is US government property." Nice little end run around the 4th Amendment.
And just so you know....
ABSOLUTELY DO NOT USE THE CARS.GOV SITE TO CHECK OUT THE CASH FOR CLUNKERS PROGRAM. If you click the link to apply for the rebate(primarily done by dealers) you have to agree to the privacy act statement, which then causes a message to pop up saying something to the effect of "This computer is now connected to a government database and is therefore classified as a government computer system and is therefore property of the United States Government, and all information on, transmitted to and transmitted from this computer is US government property." Nice little end run around the 4th Amendment.
That's scary... I wonder if its just for Microsoft Windows and not Linux
08-01-2009, 12:58 PM
#20
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1) the rebate form is nothing but a peice of paper you fill out at the dealer. This is only found at the end of "the rules" pdf.
when opening that pdf nothing pops up about the gov owning the comp from there on out.
2) you go to the dealer portion (as you say its typically a dealer applying) and there is still no option for applying.
sooo im still not seeing anything, i even tried finding it and yet you still have not provided any proof of your claim.