83ttopgt

http://www.summitracing.com/parts/uem-kb148-060

Thats a 13cc dish, even at .057 above deck with a .062 gasket, I end up at 10.1 compression ratio. Not forged though, will they take a hundred shot if I decide I need one someday?

barnett468

ok, i'm getting a bit lost now . . why don't you use the shorter rods . . it will still spin to 6800.

or just use the right pistons for the 6.0 rods?

call diamond and race tec pistons for a price for customs.

the trw's are cheap but they are heavy and not the best.
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83ttopgt

I was planning on running the windsor 5.956 rods, where did you get the 6.0 from?





These appear to be my only other option

http://www.dssracing.com/4003X_p/4003dx.htm

I will have to save a bit longer, but they seem to be right on, they don't list compression ratios for 75.4cc heads, or 9.48 deck heights though, but what I am saving on heads, I will be spending on pistons.

barnett468

i just rounded the rod number off . . i simply spend the money to do things as right as reasonably possible.

if you buy cheap $385.00 pistons and spend 140.00 getting the tops milled then $180.00 on cometoc head gaskets...well you just spent $715.00 minus the $40.00 standard head gaskets cost = $675.00 which is more than the correct dss pistons so why not just buy those.

83ttopgt

You are right. I just emailed them for more info on my combo

I am still considering doing a 393w, and saving for heads when the bottom end is done. Any harm in putting ported e7te or dooe heads on it for now until I can swing for trick flow or afr's? Other than choking the SH*T out of it above 5k?

I am trying to get the details nailed before I start buying parts

barnett468

ok, why would you put ported e7 heads on it unless you got them for free? . . they might be $750.00 from power heads with good springs and will be only worth $300.00 or less when you try to sell them.

everyone here will be glad to try and help you get the most for your dollar if we just know exactly what you are trying to achieve.

i have some 393 parts info here but i have to look for it no prob though.

if you run those heads and plan to change them just buy the cheapest 5000 rpm cam and lifters you can for now because they are worthless after you remove them.

you are better off buying the cheaper trw pistons and shorter chinese rods for 300.00 because your rods will cost around $180.00 with new arp bolts and a resize.
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83ttopgt

I have a couple of sets of e7's kicking around, as well as a set of DOOE and a set of D9OE, all sitting on shelves in my basement.

Also, aren't 302, 351w and 351c all the same wrist pin diameter at .912? I though I read that, maybe not though.

I would be just running those heads if I got the rotating assembly done before buying heads. They WOULD NOT be staying for very long, and if it was close to buying heads, the motor would just live on the stand a bit longer. Those heads would just be a back up plan for temporary use.

I am trying to get north of 400hp and have it reliable. I would think that either the clevor, or the windsor would need the 393 cubic inch displacement to make that easier.

My 393Windsor combo would be, Scat 3.85 crank, decent stock rods with arp stuff and dss 302 dished pistons

My 393 Clevor combo would be same crank, same rods, and some piston combo, plus work to the heads to get screw in studs, hardened seats etc etc.

Just trying to decide on a starting point

barnett468

ok buy the pistons that give you the compression you want with the heads you will wvwntually end up with . . the afr non clevo heads are 72 cc's, the ford clevo heads are 74 - 76 cc's etc.

the eddy clevor heads are 60 cc's so your first decision before you buy anything is what do you want . . a windsor heads or clevor heads.

once you decide this i or someone else can offer suggestions but i'll try to find my info here shortly.
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barnett468

ok, you need 1.601 deck height which will be custom pistons only . . this is the problem building a 393 cleveland.

the dss pistons will only work with the cleveland open chamber heads because the eddy clevor heads are only around 60 cc's.

why don't you want a 408/410?

http://www.summitracing.com/parts/sc...view/make/ford


you can get 1.605 compression height for the rods and 3.85 crank for windsor heads.

with 72 cc chambers on aluminum heads and a fairly big cam with .040 over bore and .040 head gaskets, you want flat top pistons . . around 5 - 7 cc dome are close enough for around 10.3 compression.

i would want around 9.2 and no more than 9.5 with iron heads, so have your iron ones measured, especially since they may have been milled . . use thick head gaskets if necessary.

Crank 28 oz balance 310.00

http://www.summitracing.com/parts/es...view/make/ford


2.1230 . . 927 pin rods

http://www.summitracing.com/parts/sc...view/make/ford


2.423 . . 912 pin rods

http://www.summitracing.com/parts/es...view/make/ford

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83ttopgt

Looks like a 393 clevor is what's gonna happen