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Old 04-26-2010, 01:01 AM
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I am currently running an 8lb pulley on my automatic Whipple Gen 1. I am getting 402 RWHP on A Dynojet A/F 11.7 avg.What would 402 RWHP be at crank hp. I am going to put on a 10 psi. pulley. With parasitic loss where is my safety margin. I know I am not too close but can any body tell me what numbers I would be seeing at the crank.Everybody talks about RWHP when talking blown rods pistons etc.Are they talking stick... auto... what? Are they taking into consideration of the losses we auto's lose? Can someone explain where an auto starts to get into dangerous numbers.THX
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Old 04-26-2010, 06:41 AM
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I'm running 11 psi and an automatic. No problems other than the dreaded third gear servo problem. Your mileage may vary but I have had no issues with this amount of boost and my auto. I'm pushing in the low 500's for HP. A converter will take a lot of pressure off the rods as will a 3.73's or a 4.10 gear. A lot of people throw rods as the engine shifts into 4th under a lot of boost. Liddio Lacabeli (Spelling?) threw his rods out in forth but he had over 80 strip runs with 17 psi and stock 3.31 gears.
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I'm running 9.5 lbs - no problems.
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12 PSI on an auto for years no problem (except 3d gear servo failure)
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Can the 3rd gear sevro be replaced with a better one, or does the entire trans. need to be rebuilt.
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Old 04-26-2010, 02:16 PM
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Originally Posted by cfr865
Can the 3rd gear sevro be replaced with a better one, or does the entire trans. need to be rebuilt.
you can replace just that sychro, but it's an involving process just to get to that one gear. I know it's apples to oranges, but over at the university, when working on the M5OD- you literally have to take the entire thing apart just to get to that "one" part. And it's not just that one synchro, it's the entire assembly. If the instructor lets us, when it's time to do auto tranny class, I want to install after market input/output shaft, as well as a better 3rd gear sychro assembly. Its quite a bit of work.. I'll see if I can post pics up later...
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So epic failure(pistons rods etc) is based on whatever RWHP and RWTQ the car is making not the motor itself.Taking parasitic loss out of the equation. td1320.... as I am nowhere near that hp I don`t have to worry.THX
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10 psi here. no issues.
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3rd gear servo issue is for 5R55S failures - not manuals
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Originally Posted by zkiller
3rd gear servo issue is for 5R55S failures - not manuals
Correct, and you can change them out with a TCI Billet without taking the whole thing apart. Forth gear in this automatic puts a big load on the engine compared to 2nd or 3rd. With large amounts of boost it spells disaster for the stock rods. I also put a hardened input shaft in my tranny since I had it out for the converter.
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