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MustangForums Editor 12-19-2011 06:08 PM

Idiot Removes Governor on V6 Mustang, Driveshaft Removes Itself
 
Seriously dumb...

http://mustangforums.com/articles/20...ves-itself.php

Torch_Vert 12-19-2011 06:28 PM

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Originally Posted by MustangForums Editor (Post 7782671)
Seriously dumb...

Yup. Even dumber, at about 120mph, it's very clear something is going south from the sound, but does he back off? Nope...

I've had mine up that high (in a sanctioned/legal environment) but not before there was a high quality aftermarket shaft and a safety loop as well.

shad2009 12-19-2011 07:33 PM

what a complete MORON...i really couldn't help but laugh at this idiot...he needs to be driving a Focus...better yet, and Fiesta

kzonts 12-19-2011 08:31 PM

Video was removed. Bummer.

StangisSwag 12-19-2011 08:48 PM

ahh. for those of you who didnt see the vid, he kinda hesitates then guns it and when the spedometer reaches about 130 theres a violent noise and shake and it leaves his camera turned on its side lmao

65Raven65 12-19-2011 10:34 PM

OK, this is going to sound dumb, but maybe I'm missing something. Why does the driveshaft in a car making 300hp break at 135mph? Why is it governed in the first place? I mean, the 2011 V6s are making the same power (I know not torque though) as a 05-09 GT. Are the 05-09 GT shafts that weak too? Why are they putting that weak of components, again, on a car that makes that much power?

I had a 2004 GT that made way less hp than a 2011 V6 and that car wasn't governed, or at least not before 130mph, I had it that fast. There must be some detail I'm not getting.


I'm seriously curious. Thanks

StangisSwag 12-20-2011 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by 65Raven65 (Post 7782950)
OK, this is going to sound dumb, but maybe I'm missing something. Why does the driveshaft in a car making 300hp break at 135mph? Why is it governed in the first place? I mean, the 2011 V6s are making the same power (I know not torque though) as a 05-09 GT. Are the 05-09 GT shafts that weak too? Why are they putting that weak of components, again, on a car that makes that much power?

I had a 2004 GT that made way less hp than a 2011 V6 and that car wasn't governed, or at least not before 130mph, I had it that fast. There must be some detail I'm not getting.


I'm seriously curious. Thanks

all ford, they put the better drive train in the v8 because its their performance car, the v6 i suppose saves fords some money, its as simple as that

Alec 12-20-2011 01:32 PM

Saving this article for all the stupid threads about idiot kids wanting to top out their stock V6 by removing the limiter

99GTvert 12-20-2011 01:48 PM

I have the description copied/pasted in another post..it was kind of amusing, lemme see if I can find it....


heh

Quote:

I had an opportunity to drive my Mustang on a closed road at high speeds and this is what happened. Apparently the standard tires are not the only reason for the car being limited to such a sub performance speed of 113MPH. (Even slower then Ford's Fiesta and Focus models = 118MPH) My stock driveshaft failed at about 135MPH, so if these cars are run flat out in the real world without the ridiculous speed governor to keep them together, the drivetrain is not actually designed to handle the power of the engine. Major damage caused by the broken shaft included a hole in the metal floorpan, major exhaust system and muffler damage, broken transmission shifter, broken parking brake, broken interior plastic trim parts, etc. My 1997 Mustang Cobra could run 152MPH for unlimited time periods and this new car only held together for about 15 seconds under full throttle!!! Give me a break!!! The drivetrain is a REALLY BAD place to cut costs for a net profit $, especially on a 305HP Mustang! I really hope that Ford makes a change to the V6 drivetrain for 2013. After all, many of these cars are driven regularly on the German Autobahn and a failure like this could be very dangerous! Solution = Ditch the governor and install a decent driveshaft! Even a 23K Honda Civic can go 137MPH without breaking!!! Come on!!! This is my 5'th Mustang and my 1'st major failure. This is totally unacceptable for a performance car!

simpsonfan13 12-20-2011 02:28 PM

he was an idiot. he was getting verbally raped by the comments so he removed the video im assuming.
i really hope he sues and gets laughed out of court. ford KNOWS that the DS can't go that fast so they put in a limiter, which he removed of his own free will, to protect the vehicle.

so in short: he was a 2011 V6 mustang driver, until he took a drive shaft to the asphalt.

Alec 12-20-2011 02:35 PM

Video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LZXBjVIrR08

Not that difficult to find

aerbourne 12-20-2011 03:11 PM

wow...what a dumb ass. dumb in the first place for removing his governor without making the necessary upgrades to handle such speeds, and then even dumber for getting pissed at ford for not making their car able to handle past what they limited it to?

Hotwheelracer 12-20-2011 03:44 PM

That is f***ing awesome!

It reminds me of videos where you see people do dumb sh*t like put their head in a gator's mouth only to see the gator lock it's jaw.


Gee I wonder they put a sign out that electric fence that says danger don't touch. Oh well............. BZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZT.

UPRSharad 12-20-2011 03:58 PM

Personally, I think the driveshaft should be able to handle the power the car makes. Despite the fact that he removed the governer, I would be livid if I was him. It's been said plenty of times on different forums, if Ford didn't intend for the V6 Mustang to be driven in a sporty manner, then they shouldn't advertise it in a commercial doing crazy burnouts and powerslides.

aaquib1992 12-20-2011 03:59 PM

I'm surprised he even made it to 135 before the failure.

kzonts 12-20-2011 04:40 PM

So what exactly needs to be upgraded to support those speeds? What's the difference between the V6 and GT?

aaquib1992 12-20-2011 04:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kzonts (Post 7783686)
So what exactly needs to be upgraded to support those speeds? What's the difference between the V6 and GT?

Drivetrain is a little different, if you read about it closely you will notice that the u-joint caps come loose and cause the u-joints to come out of place.

Not entirely a "strength of materials" problem here, but instead how the driveshaft's supporting equipment was engineered.


Basically you need a new one-piece DS (shaftmasters is popular) with bigger retainer rings, and U-joint caps.

Matt's 95 Stang 12-20-2011 04:58 PM

Idiot. There is a limiter for a reason. And to answer Kzonts question - he should have gotten a thicker DS (if they make one for the V6) or got a GT DS, and a DS safetly loop for the event a DS failure happens; like in this case.

Matthew

99GTvert 12-20-2011 05:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by UPRSharad (Post 7783640)
Personally, I think the driveshaft should be able to handle the power the car makes. Despite the fact that he removed the governer, I would be livid if I was him. It's been said plenty of times on different forums, if Ford didn't intend for the V6 Mustang to be driven in a sporty manner, then they shouldn't advertise it in a commercial doing crazy burnouts and powerslides.

Crazy burnouts and powerslides are not done at 110+ mph. Driving in a sporty manner does not require speeds that high.

It's not so much as the driveshaft doesn't handle the power as it is about the vehicle's speed. I doubt that vehicle needs 300 hp to reach the breaking point of that drivetrain part.

I cannot see how Ford is to blame for this.

kzonts 12-20-2011 06:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aaquib1992 (Post 7783693)
Drivetrain is a little different, if you read about it closely you will notice that the u-joint caps come loose and cause the u-joints to come out of place.

Not entirely a "strength of materials" problem here, but instead how the driveshaft's supporting equipment was engineered.


Basically you need a new one-piece DS (shaftmasters is popular) with bigger retainer rings, and U-joint caps.

Thanks for providing that info... I've had my car up to 110 (only once) but that's all I was brave enough to try since I've heard there was a limit, so I didn't push it.


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